Will the real Micky Adams please stand up

[Lord Large]

More to the point will the real Micky Adams please f off...

 

[backson]

clueless, dull, northern, complacent, tactically inept clown.

You must have splinters in your arse from that fence you're sitting on, tell us what you really think.

 

[trueblue]

What a load of whingeing crap on this board at the moment.

Firstly, it's hardly Micky Adams' fault that nobody available for Saturday's side can a) supply a cross that doesn't hang in the air for half an hour or b) get to the byline. A few decent deliveries and we'd surely have won comfortably. It's a problem he's already been trying to address but with McLeod injured and Asinyah suspended, he was stuck with last season's options and, as Liverpool found, it can be bloody hard to open up a penalty area packed with players.

Secondly, the constant banging on about Wilkins is utterly pointless. Yes, we finished seventh, but we were miles adrift of the play-offs and never looked like achieving any consistency. We're not achieving it now either, but then Micky's had to have some time to discover that certain players (yes.. a couple of the golden boys for those with the blue and white tinted specs) are really not up to it.

Finally, to even talk about replacing him at this point betrays an astounding ignorance. You could chop and change bosses for the next ten years, or stick with Micky throughout and it' s a fair bet the outcome would be much the same - there'd be good seasons, and indifferent ones as the side is reshaped. Bar the clubs who can afford to go out with wads of cash to instantly update their squad, that's always going to be a fact of life. Such is football.

It's driving me mad. Never known so many negative people at home games - especially as we've averaged two points a game until the weekend. In other words, promotion form across the course of a season.

 

[Mendoza]

I dont know why Adams is slating the board for a lack of signings.

He signed 7 players, which is quite a lot for a new manager coming in, so its not as if he was denied the chances to bring in some fresh faces.

Virgo, Livermore, Hart, Mayo, Hawkins, McLeod, Anyinsah, Richards were all signed by Adams, so he only has himself to blame if he thinks they are not good enough for the first team. He could have signed other players if he wanted too im sure.

Hawkins and McLeod look like they could be great signings if they stay fit.
Virgo is great cover for any position
Anyinsah I cant comment on having not seen him play
Hart and Mayo, why did he resign them?
Livermore, he should be good, but never played in his natural position

 

[trueblue]

I dont know why Adams is slating the board for a lack of signings.

He signed 7 players, which is quite a lot for a new manager coming in, so its not as if he was denied the chances to bring in some fresh faces.

True. And of those you list, bar the players who were at the club last season, they all look good deals... improvements to the squad, and players who should also be able to a job a division up.

Hart and Mayo were presumably pretty cheap as it's unlikely they were overburdened with offers and so - given their experience - probably represented decent value. As well as being reliable cover, neither are going to start running off to the press demanding a transfer the moment they're not in the team which is a risk with any new signing (and, sadly, some of the current squad!).

Perhaps he could have found other players at that price, but would they have been any good? How many more Dixons, Lofts, and Irish lads that never even get a look-in do we want?

Surely better to stick with the tried and trusted as a stopgap measure while continuing the search - Adams hasn't ever pretended for a second that he's satisfied with the squad yet.

 

[Xiz.uk]

mickey will eventually get it right, come on seagulls!!!!!!.

 

[Mendoza]

True. And of those you list, bar the players who were at the club last season, they all look good deals... improvements to the squad, and players who should also be able to a job a division up.

Hart and Mayo were presumably pretty cheap as it's unlikely they were overburdened with offers and so - given their experience - probably represented decent value. As well as being reliable cover, neither are going to start running off to the press demanding a transfer the moment they're not in the team which is a risk with any new signing (and, sadly, some of the current squad!).

Perhaps he could have found other players at that price, but would they have been any good? How many more Dixons, Lofts, and Irish lads that never even get a look-in do we want?

Surely better to stick with the tried and trusted as a stopgap measure while continuing the search - Adams hasn't ever pretended for a second that he's satisfied with the squad yet.

On the other thread we worked it out to be NINE signings by Adams, but I agree, most of it is tried and tested, as only Virgo and Hawkins have played any part in the season (possibly McLeod but he is always injured) that didnt play last season, so its pretty much the same team again.

I think defensivley we dont need any changes in personel but we certainly need a proven goal scorer, an attacking midfielder and another winger. even then that may not be enough.

Geoff Horsfield
Sean Thornton
Joe Anyinysah

These could fit those positions and we would instantly look a lot stronger as players who previously were guaranteed a starting place, will no longer have such compforts

 

[trueblue]

On the other thread we worked it out to be NINE signings by Adams, but I agree, most of it is tried and tested, as only Virgo and Hawkins have played any part in the season (possibly McLeod but he is always injured) that didnt play last season, so its pretty much the same team again.

I think defensivley we dont need any changes in personel but we certainly need a proven goal scorer, an attacking midfielder and another winger. even then that may not be enough.

Geoff Horsfield
Sean Thornton
Joe Anyinysah

These could fit those positions and we would instantly look a lot stronger as players who previously were guaranteed a starting place, will no longer have such compforts

Yeah. We seem to agree pretty much.. I think I misinterpreted your previous post

Think it would be unfair to say that he doesn't deem his signings good enough for the first team... of the new boys, only Livermore could be said to fall into that category so far. Injuries and bans keeping the others out.

And Hart and Mayo, I think, weren't brought in as first-teamers - just reliable squad players so that we're not down to the youth team for back-up.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

On the other thread we worked it out to be NINE signings by Adams, but I agree, most of it is tried and tested, as only Virgo and Hawkins have played any part in the season (possibly McLeod but he is always injured) that didnt play last season, so its pretty much the same team again.

I think defensivley we dont need any changes in personel but we certainly need a proven goal scorer, an attacking midfielder and another winger. even then that may not be enough.

Geoff Horsfield
Sean Thornton
Joe Anyinysah

These could fit those positions and we would instantly look a lot stronger as players who previously were guaranteed a starting place, will no longer have such compforts

Thornton is a fat waster

 

[Mr Blunt]

What a load of whingeing crap on this board at the moment.

Firstly, it's hardly Micky Adams' fault that nobody available for Saturday's side can a) supply a cross that doesn't hang in the air for half an hour or b) get to the byline. A few decent deliveries and we'd surely have won comfortably. It's a problem he's already been trying to address but with McLeod injured and Asinyah suspended, he was stuck with last season's options and, as Liverpool found, it can be bloody hard to open up a penalty area packed with players.

Secondly, the constant banging on about Wilkins is utterly pointless. Yes, we finished seventh, but we were miles adrift of the play-offs and never looked like achieving any consistency. We're not achieving it now either, but then Micky's had to have some time to discover that certain players (yes.. a couple of the golden boys for those with the blue and white tinted specs) are really not up to it.

Finally, to even talk about replacing him at this point betrays an astounding ignorance. You could chop and change bosses for the next ten years, or stick with Micky throughout and it' s a fair bet the outcome would be much the same - there'd be good seasons, and indifferent ones as the side is reshaped. Bar the clubs who can afford to go out with wads of cash to instantly update their squad, that's always going to be a fact of life. Such is football.

It's driving me mad. Never known so many negative people at home games - especially as we've averaged two points a game until the weekend. In other words, promotion form across the course of a season.

Spot on

 

[Barrel of Fun]

What a load of whingeing crap on this board at the moment.

Firstly, it's hardly Micky Adams' fault that nobody available for Saturday's side can a) supply a cross that doesn't hang in the air for half an hour or b) get to the byline. A few decent deliveries and we'd surely have won comfortably.

Then try something different like going through the middle?

I lost count of how many crosses we put in. If we had done our homework on Walsall, we would have realised that they have large centre backs and a keeper that is prone to act as a sweeper. Everyone in the whole ground could tell that we were not going to get a killer cross in, but the management persisted with it, right until the very end.

One dimension. We've only got one dimension. I am not so much embarrassed by the result, I am embarrassed to have a management team that did not have the nous to try something different or realise that it wasn't working.

 

[Cullip4]

I think the standard of League One has gone up a long way since Micky was last here, he probably thought that he had a squad that could challenge but these teams are now a lot more tactically aware.

Our plan for the season seemed to be to move the ball quickly and play it between the full back and centre half for Murray or Forster to run on to, as worked so well at Crewe.

But teams have done there homework and are now closing out that space leaving us having to go outside and I think the last Brighton winger I saw doing the defender and getting to the byline was Clive Walker!!

I think Micky now knows what he needs and I trust him to go out an get it!

 

[trueblue]

Then try something different like going through the middle?

How do you do that when the penalty area is solid with opposition shirts? Any coach in that scenario would want their team to use the full width of the pitch, try to pull players out of the box and get in decent deliveries .. preferably from the by-line.

The alternative would be to knock the ball from side to side in midfield, patiently waiting for a gap to exploit... not a realistic option when the crowd whinge every time the ball is passed square...

Nothing wrong with the tactics. Just piss-poor execution..