Why oh why can't people see that Dick Knight is the problem

[Giraffe]

I am constantly amazed by the amount of posters on NSC who support Dick Knight whatever.

The current position of the side was an almost certainty when Dick Knight replaced Chalk with Cheese.

Dean Wilkins and Mickey Adams could not be further apart from each other in terms of football managers. They are so very different.

When Dick axed Dean Wilkins and brought in Mickey Adams there was always going to be a period of upheaval and bad results. Mickey Adams is that type of manager, he can not take someones elses team and just tinker with it. He has to start from scratch and build the team in his own way, almost regardless what he starts with. I suspect he will, given time, get there eventually, but his method takes time. Dick Knight though is the man to blame to the current fiasco.

And what options does he leave us with? Get in a new manager who may do the same again? Personally I think he should stand by Mickey and give him time. It was a huge mistake but what would be the point in sacking and starting again? A better option would be to look in the mirror for the last time and take the Presidents job that is sitting and waiting for him. Time for some fresh younger blood. You've had your time Dick, and we're all really grateful, but now you're ruining the goodwill you deserved. Please go now.

 

[Safeway]

Have I missed something? Is Knight talking about sacking Adams?

 

[Ernest]

I am constantly amazed by the amount of posters on NSC who support Dick Knight whatever.

The current position of the side was an almost certainty when Dick Knight replaced Chalk with Cheese.

Dean Wilkins and Mickey Adams could not be further apart from each other in terms of football managers. They are so very different.

When Dick axed Dean Wilkins and brought in Mickey Adams there was always going to be a period of upheaval and bad results. Mickey Adams is that type of manager, he can not take someones elses team and just tinker with it. He has to start from scratch and build the team in his own way, almost regardless what he starts with. I suspect he will, given time, get there eventually, but his method takes time. Dick Knight though is the man to blame to the current fiasco.

And what options does he leave us with? Get in a new manager who may do the same again? Personally I think he should stand by Mickey and give him time. It was a huge mistake but what would be the point in sacking and starting again? A better option would be to look in the mirror for the last time and take the Presidents job that is sitting and waiting for him. Time for some fresh younger blood. You've had your time Dick, and we're all really grateful, but now you're ruining the goodwill you deserved. Please go now.

See my poll

 

[DTES]

Dick Knight though is the man to blame to the current fiasco.

Spot on. If Dick hadn't got involved then we wouldn't even have a club, and then we definitely wouldn't be looking at League Two football next season.

You utter, utter prick.

 

[Ernest]

Spot on. If Dick hadn't got involved then we wouldn't even have a club, and then we definitely wouldn't be looking at League Two football next season.

You utter, utter prick.

Do you really think what happened nearly 12 years ago absolves Dick Tight for the blame for the current way the club is ?

 

[cjd]

Always interesting to hear the constant..."if it wasn,t for Dick Knight we wouldn,t have a club.etc etc etc."

Who had ever heard of Dick Knight before he took over the Albion...?

Who's to say there isn't another "saviour" out there....who nobody on here has heard of yet...?

 

[DTES]

Do you really think what happened nearly 12 years ago absolves Dick Tight for the blame for the current way the club is ?

See other thread. Does saving the club and winning the Falmer planning permission battle absolve the fact we are currently sat just in the relegation zone of League One? Yes. Yes it does.

 

[Giraffe]

Spot on. If Dick hadn't got involved then we wouldn't even have a club, and then we definitely wouldn't be looking at League Two football next season.

You utter, utter prick.

Predictable response. Can you read? I am not dismissing what Dick has done in the past, I am really not. But that was in the past. If he does not go soon I fear he will be remembered for all the wrong reasons. He should be hailed as our saviour and the man that took us to Falmer, not the man who took us back to where we started.

People can't keep judging him on saving the club. That was a long long time ago, and he I honestly think that in the couple of years he has lost touch with the majority of the support and a lot of the running of the club.

I think the point I made about Martin Perry is a fair one also. He offered more than I think we realised at the time, and now that he is full time on Falmer, the cracks are showing all over the place. Ken Brown was a disastrous appointment, Dean Wilkins sacking was a disaster. The constant ticket issues are a fiasco. Even the way they announce things like Gully's Christmas party have been a disaster!!!

I know everyone loves Dick Knight, and so do I, but that doesn't mean he should be chairman for a lifetime. President yes, he deserves that. But its time for someone else to have a go and let him leave with some dignity.

 

[clapham_gull]

Retrospectively it was a mistake to think that Adams could take improve a Wilkins squad wasn't it.

Those close to the club have posted on here that the manager should be given time to rebuild the team like last time, an argument that I can't disagree with.

If that is the case then the "financial restrictions" argument is frankly bollocks, because rebuilding a squad isn't cheap. You can't argue on the one hand that the situation we are in is because of our financial restrictions, then at the same time say that the whole squad needs rebuilding and isn't the fault of the manager.

He has to be given the money to build something that will work for him or otherwise the appointment was a mistake.

It's that simple.

 

[DTES]

He should be hailed as our saviour and the man that took us to Falmer, not the man who took us back to where we started.

See, this is the problem. You say you give him credit for saving the club, and then suggest that being near the bottom of League One, two games away from Wembley, with a new stadium being built is "back where we started".

No, that's not where it started. It's nowhere bloody near where we started; It's one bad managerial appointment. To use that to call for DK's head is utter nonsense.

 

[Ernest]

See, this is the problem. You say you give him credit for saving the club, and then suggest that being near the bottom of League One, two games away from Wembley, with a new stadium being built is "back where we started".

No, that's not where it started. It's nowhere bloody near where we started; It's one bad managerial appointment. To use that to call for DK's head is utter nonsense.

We will be back where we started from if we are relegated so in May 2009 after 12 years of Dick Tights dictatorship we could be in the bottom league of English football and still homeless.
And you call that progress ?

 

[DTES]

We will be back where we started from if we are relegated so in May 2009 after 12 years of Dick Tights dictatorship we could be in the bottom league of English football and still homeless.
And you call that progress ?

Playing in Brighton.
New stadium being built.
Not favourites to be relegated to the Conference.

I'd call any one of those three progress actually, let alone all three.

 

[Giraffe]

See, this is the problem. You say you give him credit for saving the club, and then suggest that being near the bottom of League One, two games away from Wembley, with a new stadium being built is "back where we started".

No, that's not where it started. It's nowhere bloody near where we started; It's one bad managerial appointment. To use that to call for DK's head is utter nonsense.

Jeff Wood, Martin Hinshelwood, arguably Adams, arguably letting Taylor go....yep just the one.

And have I mentioned yet that despite reports to the contrary the funds are not yet in place for the stadium and it is still not open for business. I am sure we will get it, but lets be honest about it, it's not exactly been a breeze has it! 11 years! whilst stadiums have been popping up at a majority of the other 91 clubs that you mentioned. Yes I understand all the issues before you recite the whole Lewes DC thing etc.

The majority of the fans that are expected to fill Falmer are not like you and me. They have buggered off long ago and largely due to the lack of squad strenthening. That has more to do wih Dick Knight than the managers over that time.

 

[DTES]

Jeff Wood, Martin Hinshelwood, arguably Adams, arguably letting Taylor go....yep just the one.

And have I mentioned yet that despite reports to the contrary the funds are not yet in place for the stadium and it is still not open for business. I am sure we will get it, but lets be honest about it, it's not exactly been a breeze has it! 11 years! whilst stadiums have been popping up at a majority of the other 91 clubs that you mentioned. Yes I understand all the issues before you recite the whole Lewes DC thing etc.

The majority of the fans that are expected to fill Falmer are not like you and me. They have buggered off long ago and largely due to the lack of squad strenthening. That has more to do wih Dick Knight than the managers over that time.

You've made two arguments there that as far as I'm concerned support DK, not count against him.

11 years? Yes, he stuck around for 11 years. You know the reasons, so I won't recite them, but the fact he hung around through it all doesn't work against him. Neither does the fact there was a delay in the first place. Not sure what your point is here at all...

Squad Stenthening[sic]? Right, again, Dick used his limited finaces as above - to get through 11 years of appeal after appeal. Had he not, we might not have Falmer. Again, not sure why this bothers you...

 

[vulture]

its vital we get to the championship before falmer is finished even knight has said this...lets all be honest most Albion fans were over the moon adams came back and I think now Knight finds himself in a very awkard place.He has done so well to get us to Falmer but the playing side is just not good enough....when will knight pull the trigger

 

[clapham_gull]

We really have to separate the new stadium, finances and the results this season.

We finished 7th last season with exactly the same financial situation and as a continuation of that, we now find ourselves in the relegation zone.

It always struck me that what happened pre-season was influenced by the PR around the new stadium.

 

[Guy Fawkes]

Could sopmeone please explain what the big problem with Dick Knight is? and why there is such an anti feeling towards him on this board?

No Dick Knight = No club anymore,
I don't understand why people have such a problem with him, he acts as a voice for the whole board, he does not make all the decisions on his own as some would believe.

The club would be out of business now if it wasn't for the current board which basically are bailing the club out every season as we are technically insolvant, as we make a loss every season, have no assets bar players, which could leave for nothing if they are not paid for a month, so therefore no potential investor will put any offers / money in (until at least after the stadium is finished) yet the club has managed to continue to pay the players without any problems, they have also made money available to try to improve the squad, and helped the club to one of their most successful periods (in terms of trophies) in the clubs history.

They have done far more than they needed to to keep the club functioning today, and on top of that they have secured planning permission and have now started having a new stadium built, yet some are unhappy with them and their role at the club, - Why?

 

[Nemesis]

Jeff Wood, Martin Hinshelwood, arguably Adams, arguably letting Taylor go....yep just the one.

And have I mentioned yet that despite reports to the contrary the funds are not yet in place for the stadium and it is still not open for business. I am sure we will get it, but lets be honest about it, it's not exactly been a breeze has it! 11 years! whilst stadiums have been popping up at a majority of the other 91 clubs that you mentioned. Yes I understand all the issues before you recite the whole Lewes DC thing etc.

The majority of the fans that are expected to fill Falmer are not like you and me. They have buggered off long ago and largely due to the lack of squad strenthening. That has more to do wih Dick Knight than the managers over that time.

Trying not to be confrontational here but you are talking nonsense.

You clearly don't understand the issues relating to the stadium planning application and the huge role LDC, FPC and all of the other anal anti-stadium groups have had in holding this club back. There is no way Dick Knight can be blamed for fans buggering off-when in this club's history has it ever had THREE promotions in a ten year period? At Withdean for f***'s sake. Not to mention that 2 of those promotions were as Champions and the third being one of our best ever days out as Albion fans! DK has made mistakes and continues to make them but without him and his Board there'd be no BHAFC for us to be moaning about. In 1997 there wasn't one person on the planet-other than DK-who was willing to take control of our football club.

He is nowhere near perfect but make no bones about it-without DK this club would have died in 1997 and for that alone he has earned the respect of ALL Albion fans. If he is not to your liking then what are the alternatives? There is NOBODY out there with his commitment to this club. I'm sure that if one of you 'fans' could interest a rich idiot into buying the club Dick Knight would happily hand over the club. Instead of constantly sniping at him-find somebody to take over from him. I think you'll have one hell of a job on your hands. I forgot to mention-the person has to have the club's best interests at heart which makes your task just that little bit harder, if not impossible.

When you find the solution let us all know-until then, shut the f*** up.

 

[Giraffe]

Opinions are opinions. It's mine that Dick would be better moving to the President role before fans turn on him than after which would really be a disgrace. But I also respect the view that he deserves to do as he wishes for all he has done in the past. I don't agree with this view and sometimes think the vociferous way he is defended actually spreads the problem. A man that can do no wrong is a dangerous man indeed. However we're all Albion fans, and football is what we care about, and the game wouldn't be the same if all opinions were the same. Night night one and all.

Boxing Day here we come. Albion 6 Colchester 0 (two Hammond own goals, a cameo sub appearance from Adams in the last minute, when after being held aloft by Virgo he nods in the sixth!! Marvellous scenes!)

 

[Acker79]

Trying not to be confrontational here but you are talking nonsense.
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When you find the solution let us all know-until then, shut the f*** up.

Good job with the not being confrontational