Why no Lita - again?

[Neecha]

Blime! A far more considered effort than your first go. But aren't these statements from your first and last emails completely contradictory-"he went missing for most of it" and "I get the graft/ heart/ endeavour and effort he puts in and the hold up play is great".

Sorry, but for all your latter-day explanations, I bet deep down you were gutted when Barnes scored that penalty against Blackburn the other week so you could really kick off about him.

He had 3 shots all game, my point is around one thing and that's scoring goals as a centre forward. Trusts me if Barnes starts knocking in more goals I will change my opinion on him as a forward. I will always be happy if we are getting wins. The irony of all of this is that I just want what I feel is best for the team and feel we are missing a trick leaving Lita on the bench at the moment. If Barnes wants to play midfield then why not do that then everyone is happy!!!

 

[chimneys]

He had 3 shots all game, my point is around one thing and that's scoring goals as a centre forward. Trusts me if Barnes starts knocking in more goals I will change my opinion on him as a forward. I will always be happy if we are getting wins. The irony of all of this is that I just want what I feel is best for the team and feel we are missing a trick leaving Lita on the bench at the moment. If Barnes wants to play midfield then why not do that then everyone is happy!!!

Barnes does exactly what Oscar tells him to. If you have a beef, put Oscar in your sights, not Barnes.

Oh hang on a minute, Oscar is probably about to win manager of the month.......

 

[Neecha]

Barnes does exactly what Oscar tells him to. If you have a beef, put Oscar in your sights, not Barnes.

Oh hang on a minute, Oscar is probably about to win manager of the month.......

Its his side I hope he does love the bloke. Barnes in or out I hope we beat Barnsley and Leicester and get up in the play off positions

 

[Gazwag]

He had 3 shots all game, my point is around one thing and that's scoring goals as a centre forward. Trusts me if Barnes starts knocking in more goals I will change my opinion on him as a forward. I will always be happy if we are getting wins. The irony of all of this is that I just want what I feel is best for the team and feel we are missing a trick leaving Lita on the bench at the moment. If Barnes wants to play midfield then why not do that then everyone is happy!!!

So he scored with 33% of his shots today, any striker would be pleased with that return

 

[Neecha]

So he scored with 33% of his shots today, any striker would be pleased with that return

Pedantic

 

[chimneys]

Its his side I hope he does love the bloke. Barnes in or out I hope we beat Barnsley and Leicester and get up in the play off positions

Now those are comments of a true Albion fan!

Whilst I firmly disagree with your criticism of Oscar playing Barnes, I do respect you coming on here and putting your views across unlike many of the whispering Barnes haters.

And as we are having a sensible/mature dialogue, can you please assist my understanding of this dislike of Barnes. Is it for his petulance e.g Bolton away last season, and his moaning at refs etc or is it that he is no Leo or Bobby and that's just not good enough? Its just there are a number of players who have had far worse seasons for us thus far, off the top of my head-Conway, Bruno, Spanish Dave, Andrews, but none of them come in for any real stick, let alone the vitriol aimed at another of our very own and I really don't get it.

Would appreciate a steer.

 

[Neecha]

Now those are comments of a true Albion fan!

Whilst I firmly disagree with your criticism of Oscar playing Barnes, I do respect you coming on here and putting your views across unlike many of the whispering Barnes haters.

And as we are having a sensible/mature dialogue, can you please assist my understanding of this dislike of Barnes. Is it for his petulance e.g Bolton away last season, and his moaning at refs etc or is it that he is no Leo or Bobby and that's just not good enough? Its just there are a number of players who have had far worse seasons for us thus far, off the top of my head-Conway, Bruno, Spanish Dave, Andrews, but none of them come in for any real stick, let alone the vitriol aimed at another of our very own and I really don't get it.

Would appreciate a steer.

Thanks for your comments. It's not that I don't like Ashley Barnes as a player I just don't rate him as a forward in the championship. We have a player who has scored goals in the premier league and I believe 7 or 8 for sheff wed last season sitting on the bench for us. Its broader than I just don't rate or like Barnes I'm thinking today where is the pace in this side?? Where are we going to hurt them at the back where they lack pace. I just felt today especially we lacked the presence we need to have a go at them up front. Barnes spent most of the game chasing lost causes or playing with his back to goal. Anyway lets not take away from that brilliant strike and thanks to him we got a draw. I just know we have a better finisher, quicker more experienced forward sitting on the bench in Lita at the moment.

 

[BensGrandad]

The interesting time comes when Ulloa is fit as OG has spoken very highly of Barnes so how will he fit Ulloa into the side.

 

[Neecha]

The interesting time comes when Ulloa is fit as OG has spoken very highly of Barnes so how will he fit Ulloa into the side.

I really cant see him having that headache can you?

 

[Reinelt12]

Thanks for your comments. It's not that I don't like Ashley Barnes as a player I just don't rate him as a forward in the championship. We have a player who has scored goals in the premier league and I believe 7 or 8 for sheff wed last season sitting on the bench for us. Its broader than I just don't rate or like Barnes I'm thinking today where is the pace in this side?? Where are we going to hurt them at the back where they lack pace. I just felt today especially we lacked the presence we need to have a go at them up front. Barnes spent most of the game chasing lost causes or playing with his back to goal. Anyway lets not take away from that brilliant strike and thanks to him we got a draw. I just know we have a better finisher, quicker more experienced forward sitting on the bench in Lita at the moment.

Serious question - Do you think Lita can play the lone forward role (and everything that requires from a footballer) as well as Barnes has over the last few games?

 

[Invicta]

Lita has been inconsistent wherever he has played - maybe why Oscar trusts Ashley.

 

[Husty]

What are 'pro-Barnes' glasses? Are they the things that make you see a given player in a positive light?

Taking them off might be tricky, as I call mine 'eyes'.

Get over yourself. I have been full of nothing but Praise for Barnes this season. However I don't feel the need to fight his side no matter what and post loaded comments looking to get people to bite.

 

[Perkino]

I would like to have seen Lita come on for Ince as the last substitution. We were on top and switching from a 4-5-1 to a 4-4-2 seemed to be the right move. Barnes could've done with someone playing a little closer to him

 

[The Truth]

I feel sorry for Barnes. Even when he scores an absolute beauty of a goal which gained us a point, people are still moaning about him.

 

[Mutts Nuts]

You Barnes haters really get on my t*ts. Take your anti Barnes tinted specs off and try judging based upon what he actually does on the pitch. The independent commentators on Sky praised his exceptional work rate, but so called Brighton fans still slate him. Pathetic!!

No one disputes his work rate,the commentators see him once in a blue moon we watch him week in week out , it is clear to all that Barnes and CMS are not good enough for this division, lovely blokkes they are but still not good enough

 

[Tony Meolas Loan Spell]

I hate this one upfront NONSENSE. With the two quality balls Conway put in the second half if we had two strikers they would have been GOALS. Lita AND Barnes. There.

 

[Perkino]

I hate this one upfront NONSENSE. With the two quality balls Conway put in the second half if we had two strikers they would have been GOALS. Lita AND Barnes. There.

You sir may possible win an award for the most sensible thing said on NSC in 2013.

My opinion is we started the correct shape but should have switched to Barnes and Lita on 65ish minutes

 

[LamieRobertson]

You sir may possible win an award for the most sensible thing said on NSC in 2013.

My opinion is we started the correct shape but should have switched to Barnes and Lita on 65ish minutes

so its the managers fault then..just for clarity

 

[Withdeano]

Interesting that the OP was about Andrews ahead of Lita, and the thread has been dominated by Barnes v Lita. I think OG's assertion that Ince had cramp and a knock explains why it was Andrews - he was the most similar player to Ince that remained on the bench. That said, like many, I was a bit disappointed as I was hoping for Lita. I think if Ince could have continued Lita would have come on for Conway, and Barnes would have moved out wide.

 

[Mellotron]

Its his side I hope he does love the bloke. Barnes in or out I hope we beat Barnsley and Leicester and get up in the play off positions

Stop focusing on Barnes' goal return then, when that's 10% of what Oscar is asking of him. Oscar's clearly very happy with the job Barnes is doing for the team, and it's working, as we're unbeaten in 6.