Why don't Islamic State just move in with Saudi Arabia ?

[Leekbrookgull]

Is this what the West is up against ? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-29527556

 

[Kuipers Supporters Club]

Exactly, there is already an Islamic State in the Middle East. Executions every Friday in public, and we just don't care.

 

[ozzygull]

Some of the comments made by the men don't sound too different from some of the comments made on here.

 

[BlockDpete]

Funnily enough, I went to see Tunisia v Saudi Arabia in Munich during the 2006 World Cup.

Saw quite a few Saudi looking women, in their national top, plus scarves. But no burkas or head coverings at all.

Guess once they are out if their country, anything goes?

 

[Leekbrookgull]

Funnily enough, I went to see Tunisia v Saudi Arabia in Munich during the 2006 World Cup.

Saw quite a few Saudi looking women, in their national top, plus scarves. But no burkas or head coverings at all.

Guess once they are out if their country, anything goes?

Ahh,freedom.

 

[fataddick]

Funnily enough, I went to see Tunisia v Saudi Arabia in Munich during the 2006 World Cup.

Saw quite a few Saudi looking women, in their national top, plus scarves. But no burkas or head coverings at all.

Guess once they are out if their country, anything goes?

I was at that game too. Lot of Saudi fans in the beer halls the next day. Decent bunch. The ones I spoke to lived in Germany/Europe (either Europeans of Saudi descent, students or kids of Europe-based Saudi businessmen). Nowt wrong with that. It would be naive to think that people who support a country in the World Cup have actually flown to the tournament from that country - a large portion, especially from the further afield and more restrictive countries, will almost certain be ex-pats.

 

[dingodan]

All sounds fine and dandy now, but wait until she becomes riddled with sin.

 

[Ex-Staffs Gull]

You have a patriarchal society with religion as a justification to break down. There are still men only institutions in this country. Going back 100 years in this country, women had to cover up, had no vote and were restricted in education and jobs. Change takes time and comes from within. The very fact that IS exists tells you that change is happening and they dont like it.

 

[Albion Dan]

Saudi and Qatar have funded the entire is movement. Medieval regimes that act as the extra us states. Vile countries that carry out extremities worse than IS deliver every day.

 

[maltaseagull]

Funnily enough, I went to see Tunisia v Saudi Arabia in Munich during the 2006 World Cup.

Saw quite a few Saudi looking women, in their national top, plus scarves. But no burkas or head coverings at all.

Guess once they are out if their country, anything goes?

Dead Right.

As soon as the wheels go up, there is a mass rush to the toilets and they all change to western clothes and come out and order their alcoholic drinks which are banned in their country. Hypocrites! (I worked there for 2.5 years)

 

[Lady Whistledown]

Dead Right.

As soon as the wheels go up, there is a mass rush to the toilets and they all change to western clothes and come out and order their alcoholic drinks which are banned in their country. Hypocrites! (I worked there for 2.5 years)

How does that make them all "hypocrites"?

If obeying the law in their own country would result in prison or a public lashing, I don't see it as hypocritical to comply with it. It's only hypocritical if somebody bangs on about the sanctity of Islam in the meantime. I don't imagine they all do that. They just do what they're told.

 

[maltaseagull]

"How does that make them all "hypocrites"?

If obeying the law in their own country would result in prison or a public lashing, I don't see it as hypocritical to comply with it. It's only hypocritical if somebody bangs on about the sanctity of Islam in the meantime. I don't imagine they all do that. They just do what they're told. "




Their religion forbids alcohol not their country. When you met Saudis in their own country they all came across as devout Muslims.

 

[Tesco in Disguise]

You have a patriarchal society with religion as a justification to break down. There are still men only institutions in this country. Going back 100 years in this country, women had to cover up, had no vote and were restricted in education and jobs. Change takes time and comes from within. The very fact that IS exists tells you that change is happening and they dont like it.

Yes, but the west was pioneering with liberal democracy and sexual equality. So it was more difficult for us. The Saudis have countless examples all around them off what a more just society should look like, and it's far less forgivable that they don't follow suit.

I cannot wait until the oil runs out.

 

[daveinprague]

"How does that make them all "hypocrites"?

If obeying the law in their own country would result in prison or a public lashing, I don't see it as hypocritical to comply with it. It's only hypocritical if somebody bangs on about the sanctity of Islam in the meantime. I don't imagine they all do that. They just do what they're told. "




Their religion forbids alcohol not their country. When you met Saudis in their own country they all came across as devout Muslims.

I left Saudi as quite a heavy drinker to be honest. Never really was before, and that included the RN.
Used to see native Saudis at parties all the time, particularly at Lockheed, and BAC

 

[Insel affe]

Is this what the West is up against ? Why don't Islamic State just move in with Saudi Arabia ?[/URL]

Then we could buy one big feck off missile and be done with these little waste of time and money raids in Syria and kill two birds with one stone, pop back in a few years and divide the remaining assets equally of course with the US..... seems a good plan to me....

 

[maltaseagull]

I left Saudi as quite a heavy drinker to be honest. Never really was before, and that included the RN.
Used to see native Saudis at parties all the time, particularly at Lockheed, and BAC

True if you had the right contacts to those with connections. I was working on the site where they built KKMC. Just a humble worker and so didn't get invited to the upper echelons Did pay £60 for a bottle of home brew spirit one Christmas)

 

[Danny-Boy]

"How does that make them all "hypocrites"?

If obeying the law in their own country would result in prison or a public lashing, I don't see it as hypocritical to comply with it. It's only hypocritical if somebody bangs on about the sanctity of Islam in the meantime. I don't imagine they all do that. They just do what they're told. "




Their religion forbids alcohol not their country. When you met Saudis in their own country they all came across as devout Muslims.

What else does it forbid? Cannabis? Heroin (probably Opium then)? Obviously not 4x4's.

 

[daveinprague]

True if you had the right contacts to those with connections. I was working on the site where they built KKMC. Just a humble worker and so didn't get invited to the upper echelons Did pay £60 for a bottle of home brew spirit one Christmas)

Worked there myself ;-) Hafr Al Batin...yeah, out in the desert, it was more a Saddiqui environment. It was much better (obviously) in the support offices in Khobar, and Riyadh

 

[Blackadder]

The IS isn't only fighting for Jihadism - it's more about politics & territory, hence "ISIL", "ISIS" - their goal is to take over the Levant and run things their way.

The trouble is The Levant today consists of Cyprus, Israel, Jordan, Lebanon, Palestine, Syria, and part of southern Turkey (the former Aleppo Vilayet).

Spot the country with Nuclear weapons.

 

[symyjym]

Is this what the West is up against ? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-29527556

That burka came in handy then.