Why doesn't FIFA just shove it.

[Worried Man Blues]

Your name will be top of the list come the revolution, you have been warned............

Sorry I forgot that little out post in the West of England

 

[BensGrandad]

I wonder if they will compromise by the players wearing armbands pre game and for the National Anthems then take them off before kick off and placed just behind the touch line.

 

[nickbrighton]

this obviously doesnt count as a political statement then

EDIT*Sorry Thunderbolt- didnt see your link till after i posted

 

[mejonaNO12 aka riskit]

You stated that you understand fifas position , and why they have reservations, I asked you why they had no reservations over this View attachment 79127

you still haven't answered , why ?

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/37872020

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

England wore the armband with a poppy in 2011, when FIFA said it couldn't be on a shirt, so there is a precedent. This time FIFA is saying the armbands can't be wron either. The English, Welsh & Scottish FAs, are saying we will wear the armbands.

If FIFA want to punish us, our answer would be why wasn't it wrong 5 years ago?

FIFA don't do logic. They will either fine us, or not. I just hope they don't give us a 9 point deduction. If they do, I suggest court. I'd like to see us, the Germans, France, Italy and Brazil saying '**** you, Fifa, we're off' but there is too much gutlessness and too many back handers in this particular pile of shite.

 

[DavidinSouthampton]

I don't, but then again you're one of those who refuses to accept Corbyns blatant support for the IRA

When have I ever said anything about Corbyn's blatant support for the IRA? genuine question.

 

[alfredmizen]

When have I ever said anything about Corbyn's blatant support for the IRA? genuine question.

I cannot be bothered to trawl back through posts but you have made excuses .

 

[DavidinSouthampton]

I cannot be bothered to trawl back through posts but you have made excuses .

I am not expecting you to trawl back through posts, and am not particularly bothered about it, but I am not a Corbyn apologist and never have been. I have had votes in both the leadership elections by dint of being a Trade Union member, and on neither occasion voted for Corbyn. Although a left-leaning person, and although I think he is probably a nice bloke, as a political leader in the present circumstances, I think he is a total waste of space.

 

[LamieRobertson]

So FIFA have opened disciplinary proceedings against England and Scotland..why don't they just **** off

 

[nicko31]

Fifa are a joke end of, if it was down to me we'd be boycotting Russia 2018

 

[GT49er]

If they do, I suggest court. I'd like to see us, the Germans, France, Italy and Brazil saying '**** you, Fifa, we're off'.

If only...........................................!

Fifa are a joke end of, if it was down to me we'd be boycotting Russia 2018

This too.

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

FIFA are showing themselves to be utter scum.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

So FIFA have opened disciplinary proceedings against England and Scotland..why don't they just **** off

They've set themselves up as judge and jury, by deciding the poppy is a political symbol, when it's nothing of the sort. It's just a ruse to get them more money in fines.

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

Fifa are a joke end of, if it was down to me we'd be boycotting Russia 2018

This all the way.

 

[Buzzer]

The English and Scots FA shouldn't even bother responding to the charges. Just tell them we'll pay the fine and we'll do the same next year.

F*ck 'em. I know who has got the moral high ground here.

 

[Paul Reids Sock]

Isn't this just like before? They will turn it over to the independent panel to see if they determine rules were broken. Just like they did before when they didn't say no they just said that disciplinary would be decided independently.

Also, if you take all the emotion away (and don't claim I have no respect because I do) then you could see how someone with no ties could say it was political. We are remembering our war dead from wars that our politicians took us into

 

[Theatre of Trees]

Not quite sure why people are getting irate when the threat of a fine was there beforehand. Everyone seemed to encourage the FA to ignore it which they did, now they are surprised when FIFA act under their own guidelines. And before people start whacking up pictures of Argentine banners about the Falklands and Irish shirts celebrating the Easter Rising, they got fined too.

If anything it is the FA who should have people's ire directed towards them, making an issue out of a symbol of remembrance. They never bothered between 1919 and 2011, why is it different now? Why didn't they commemorate beforehand, lay some wreaths (enough professional footballers gave their lives during WW1 and WW2), donate some of the ticket fee to the British Legion, invite veterans along. Instead they turned it into a showdown with FIFA.

 

[Buzzer]

If anything it is the FA who should have people's ire directed towards them, making an issue out of a symbol of remembrance. They never bothered between 1919 and 2011, why is it different now? Why didn't they commemorate beforehand, lay some wreaths (enough professional footballers gave their lives during WW1 and WW2), donate some of the ticket fee to the British Legion, invite veterans along. Instead they turned it into a showdown with FIFA.

I don't think it matters what happened previously, times change, moods change and how we choose to commemorate certain events do too and the FA appear to have the overwhelming support of fans, clubs and players in honouring Remembrance Day in this way. And if Remembrance Sunday is political then so was the minute's silence to remember the victims of terror attacks in France last year.

I don't think we need too much lecturing on political grandstanding from an organisation that puts a higher price on protecting its advertising rights than blatant and persistent racial abuse.

 

[pasty]

Just what the **** is wrong with these poeple.

Latest update from BBC website

"Fifa's disciplinary committee is believed to be examining a range of issues relating to England's World Cup qualifying game against Scotland.

Both associations have been charged and it is understood the Football Association has been notified that pre-match events on Armistice Day are also under scrutiny.

This would potentially include the display of poppies on big screens in Wembley, the minute silence, the playing of the Last Post and handing poppy t-shirts out to the crowd."

 

[Honky Tonx]

Now FIFA are investigating the pre-match showing of poppies on the big screen, the playing of the last post and minutes silence. What a bunch of disrespectful *******s. Shame on them!!!