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Why doesn't Buckley take pennos?







portslade seagull

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Think the whole squad are now scared of being nominated as there appears to be little confidence that they believe they can convert them. Maybe we need a penalty king trainer
 


El Turi

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We were also saying this at the game. Buckley seems to be the most natural finisher at the club so it would make sense for him to take the penalties.
 


Goldstone Rapper

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Think the whole squad are now scared of being nominated as there appears to be little confidence that they believe they can convert them. Maybe we need a penalty king trainer

Step forward Leon Knight, Albion's new penalty king coach.
 


One Love

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For me you need to have the most technically proficient players taking the penalties.

We have the least proficient and they are probably stepping forward to try and get their goal stats up as they know in normal play they can't hit a barn door.
 






Lush

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Think the whole squad are now scared of being nominated as there appears to be little confidence that they believe they can convert them. Maybe we need a penalty king trainer

I think that good strikers have a swagger - a self-belief, almost arrogance. It's what made Bobby Zamora/Leon Knight stick the ball in the net on such a regular basis. CMS does OK on technique. Barnes does OK on youthful bravado. I'm hoping that Hoskins or Dobbie get a proper chance to show us what they're made of on the pitch and from the penalty spot
 


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I think that good strikers have a swagger - a self-belief, almost arrogance. It's what made Bobby Zamora/Leon Knight stick the ball in the net on such a regular basis. CMS does OK on technique. Barnes does OK on youthful bravado. I'm hoping that Hoskins or Dobbie get a proper chance to show us what they're made of on the pitch and from the penalty spot

Yes. We need a Billy Big Bollocks up front who pisses everyone off. All our strikers seem to be honest grafters.
 






Herr Tubthumper

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I wonder if Gus will nominate a penalty taker from now on. The current process doesn't seem to work well.
 


bhawoddy

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Getting there I think. Today showed Poyet's class. Players let him down but the way we went about them today was good. Two seasons of good transfer dealing and we're there. Now my anger has subsided I have some away from the game thinking there's something happening and it is GOOD

Do you think the players let, Di matteo down or Mark Hughes or any other manager thats been given the boot recently??
 




bhawoddy

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Think the whole squad are now scared of being nominated as there appears to be little confidence that they believe they can convert them. Maybe we need a penalty king trainer

U can never simulate the pressure that goes with playing in an important game on the training pitch....... no matter how many pens you take in training.

GOD - am i actually sticking up for Barnes here!!!
 


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U can never simulate the pressure that goes with playing in an important game on the training pitch....... no matter how many pens you take in training.

That's the kind of mentality that the England football team traditionally has about penalties - and means they don't take practising them as seriously as, say, the German national side. It's a loser's 'it'll be all right on the night' mentality that leads to underachievement on the pitch.
 


bhawoddy

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That's the kind of mentality that the England football team traditionally has about penalties - and means they don't take practising them as seriously as, say, the German national side. It's a loser's 'it'll be all right on the night' mentality that leads to underachievement on the pitch.

Ive not suggested they dont take pens in training. All ive pointed out is that you cannot replicate the pressure an individual is under until game time.
 




Lush

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That's the kind of mentality that the England football team traditionally has about penalties - and means they don't take practising them as seriously as, say, the German national side. It's a loser's 'it'll be all right on the night' mentality that leads to underachievement on the pitch.

It's also, if you'll forgive the national stereotyping, why we don't have the arrogance/self-confidence that goes with scoring goals/pens.

I suggest we get Derren Brown on the case.
 


Gullzone

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Based on his wolves penalty, dobbie assuming he takes Barnes place in the side.

Probably the best shout.

If in doubt I would rather just see someone drill the fuckin ball, most shots hit hard enough from the spot would go in!!
 


Thunder Bolt

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That's the kind of mentality that the England football team traditionally has about penalties - and means they don't take practising them as seriously as, say, the German national side. It's a loser's 'it'll be all right on the night' mentality that leads to underachievement on the pitch.

That's the answer, we need to buy a German player. The fan who scored a pen at half time at Huddersfield was a German Albion fan. It's all in the genes.
 


Goldstone Rapper

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Ive not suggested they dont take pens in training. All ive pointed out is that you cannot replicate the pressure an individual is under until game time.

There are ways of creating a pressurised environment.

There was a BBC documentary called The England Patient a decade ago which recorded a player taking penalties. They then added pressure to penalty taking by telling the kicker that his kicks were being recorded for something like a Fifa coaching panel to watch and analyse. What they found is that this factor created an addition of pressure that had a negative effect on the player so his penalty taking deteriorated. What they found is that often, pressure activates the same part of the brain that is dominant when someone is learning something for the first time, and it makes their coordination and movement as clumsy as someone trying a skill for the first time. A good example that was cited was Gareth Southgate's penalty against Germany in Euro '96 when the pressure so affected his body that he was not even connecting with the ball correctly. By extension, you could say the same about Barnes yesterday afternoon.

I'm no sports psychologist, but, from seeing the varying degrees of effectiveness during the business end of the football season, I assert that there are ways of practising dealing powerfully with the presence of pressure as a sportsman or sportswoman.
 
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