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[Football] "why can't we sign tried and tested Premier League footballers"



Stat Brother

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Jul 11, 2003
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Sky sources: Aston Villa agree fee of £20m to sign defender Tyrone Mings from Bournemouth.

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The fella couldn't even get into Bournemouth's side.

£12m profit from 17 appearances - nice work Bournemouth, I'll allow you to be smug over that one.
 




Cirina

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Apr 25, 2019
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Eastbourne
Too low profile and not willing to spend the going rate. Probably an unpopular opinion but it's like we can't or don't want to compete and are quite happy doing things our way
 


afcb

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Dec 14, 2007
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He isn't tried and tested at PL level.

Far from it.

We are overjoyed at flogging a fringe player for such a daft fee. I think it rises to £26.5 million.....happy days.
 


keaton

Big heart, hot blood and balls. Big balls
Nov 18, 2004
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Too low profile and not willing to spend the going rate. Probably an unpopular opinion but it's like we can't or don't want to compete and are quite happy doing things our way

The popular opinion on this forum appears to be it was all Hughton's fault so why would need to sign a different sort of player?
 


Conelli98

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Dec 18, 2016
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We have, Murray Zamora, Sidwell to name a few but all and the end of their careers and very cheap...
 




Machiavelli

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Oct 11, 2013
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He isn't tried and tested at PL level.

Far from it.

We are overjoyed at flogging a fringe player for such a daft fee. I think it rises to £26.5 million.....happy days.

Not surprised. From what I've seen from him, he's a gallumping oaf, and people seem to rate him due to his physique. I suspect you'll be far more concerned at the prospect of losing Ake though. And Wilson. And Fraser.
 


Stat Brother

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He isn't tried and tested at PL level.

Far from it.

We are overjoyed at flogging a fringe player for such a daft fee. I think it rises to £26.5 million.....happy days.
Exactly.
 
















NooBHA

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Jan 13, 2015
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There are two reasons why. And this isn't Brighton or any club below the Champions League Participants. The CL participants are judged by their fans on bringing in massive names. Everyone else have a different agenda which is twofold

1. Don't get ripped off or held to ransom by another selling club in terms of what you pay for a player.

2. Find a player for a bargain that your fans are gonna pat you on the back for finding.
 






el punal

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Aug 29, 2012
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Too low profile and not willing to spend the going rate. Probably an unpopular opinion but it's like we can't or don't want to compete and are quite happy doing things our way

And you have the ear of who . . . on the board?

By the way, I refer you to the fate of Fulham regarding your comments. :shrug:
 


el punal

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Aug 29, 2012
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The dull part of the south coast
Sky sources: Aston Villa agree fee of £20m to sign defender Tyrone Mings from Bournemouth.

[tweet]1147885662521253888[/tweet]


The fella couldn't even get into Bournemouth's side.

£12m profit from 17 appearances - nice work Bournemouth, I'll allow you to be smug over that one.

That, motherf*****, is Jules Winnfield from Pulp Fiction. Enjoy your R-O-Y-A-L-E, mmm mmmh! :drink:
 


Weststander

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Aug 25, 2011
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Withdean area
It must come from the top, TB is determined not to pay the wages proven PL players demand.

Burnley and Brighton (excluding one season PL clubs) are the only two clubs with a ceiling of about £50k a week.

Watford, Palace, Bmuff, Newcastle and Stains pay their better players far more than Brighton/Burnley .... don’t quite know how they manage that, when all 7 clubs have not dissimilar income?
 


ATFC Seagull

Aberystwyth Town FC
Jul 27, 2004
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(North) Portslade
I don't think anyone has been arguing for us to sign tried and tested Premier League players who are still their prime have they? That would be mad. We are one of the poorest clubs in the division (due to our relatively recent arrival) and one that looks nailed on for a relegation battle. Why would anyone jump ship from a premier league club to us? Unless we offered silly money, but no-one wants to go down that road.

I think what people have been suggesting is to take a punt on Championship players rather than players from the Dutch/Belgian leagues, as the style of football (and probably even the jump in standard) is closer, and perhaps some squad signings along the lines of Sidwell/Zamora (e.g. players who can do a job and have the experience, but are perhaps on their way out of other clubs).
 




El Presidente

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Jul 5, 2003
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Pattknull med Haksprut
It must come from the top, TB is determined not to pay the wages proven PL players demand.

Burnley and Brighton (excluding one season PL clubs) are the only two clubs with a ceiling of about £50k a week.

Watford, Palace, Bmuff, Newcastle and Stains pay their better players far more than Brighton/Burnley .... don’t quite know how they manage that, when all 7 clubs have not dissimilar income?

There's not a lot of difference between the Albion and Watford, and I'd expect that gap to narrow in 2018/19.

Premier League 2019 Average Weekly Wage.PNG

One issue that is different is that of player sales. The other clubs in the list have had substantial sales in recent years, unlike the Albion, and these can be used to contribute towards other player costs such as wages.
 


Blue Valkyrie

Not seen such Bravery!
Sep 1, 2012
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Valhalla
I suspect Tony wants to get the same edge he gets on his gambling business, with player acquisition.

And who is to say he can't - over time with a bigger sample of players and with a few refinements to his 'algorithms' ?
 


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