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bhaexpress

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Jul 7, 2003
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Out of proportion when compared to what?

She purposefully misled many people, abused her position and conducted a sexual relationship with someone under the age of consent.

Why would she be released on appeal? Edit: I mean, what would be her grounds for appeal?

Because under the circumstances its too heavy a sentence. And also, who did she actually harm here ? Clearly not her 'victim'.
 


looney

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Jul 7, 2003
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Because under the circumstances its too heavy a sentence. And also, who did she actually harm here ? Clearly not her 'victim'.

How can you be so sure? Her exposure to males is at least limited seeing she was at a girls public school. Hardly enough experiance of life to find out if she is straight, bi or lessa before the nonce moved in.
 


Barrel of Fun

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Because under the circumstances its too heavy a sentence. And also, who did she actually harm here ? Clearly not her 'victim'.

Well, she has harmed the reputation of her school and caused some further damage to the profession. It is illegal to have sex with a minor, whether they consent or not. The law is in place to protect.

She had an option before she decided to seduce or be seduced. Quit and wait until the 'victim' was of a consenting age.

Obviously the sentence is viewed as heavy by you, if you feel she should not have been sentenced at all. Some get community service, some get a year, some get more. I don't think we are qualified to decide what sentence is appropriate and the judge is in a better position to do that with all the facts/testimonies in from of him/her.
 










bhaexpress

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Well, she has harmed the reputation of her school and caused some further damage to the profession. It is illegal to have sex with a minor, whether they consent or not. The law is in place to protect.

She had an option before she decided to seduce or be seduced. Quit and wait until the 'victim' was of a consenting age.

Obviously the sentence is viewed as heavy by you, if you feel she should not have been sentenced at all. Some get community service, some get a year, some get more. I don't think we are qualified to decide what sentence is appropriate and the judge is in a better position to do that with all the facts/testimonies in from of him/her.

Have you any idea about Judges ? Believe me they have as many if not more agendas than you have. How often do we see Judges let offenders go free as it suits their whim ? Considering that other sex offenders get non custodial sentences quite often this is a disproportionate ruling. As it is the so called victim was a few months away from becoming a consenting adult. remember as well that we have one of the highest ages of consent in Europe, many countries it's 14 not 16.
 




Barrel of Fun

Abort, retry, fail
Have you any idea about Judges ? Believe me they have as many if not more agendas than you have. How often do we see Judges let offenders go free as it suits their whim ? Considering that other sex offenders get non custodial sentences quite often this is a disproportionate ruling. As it is the so called victim was a few months away from becoming a consenting adult. remember as well that we have one of the highest ages of consent in Europe, many countries it's 14 not 16.

A blood relative is a judge, a good family friend is a judge, I live with a lawyer and a trainee lawyer and I have studied various parts of the law myself.

I am not sure what agenda I have, other than the upholding of the law?

What other sex offenders? What cases are you referring to?

We do have a higher age of consent than most countries, but where should you draw the line, other than at the age of 16 when judging such a case? There are mentally mature 13 year olds and immature 15 year olds.

You are assuming that a judge releases someone or sets someone free on a whim, without any knowledge of legal pratices and/or case law. Of course, there are going to be mistakes made, but you are proposing that you know better than this particular judge or other judges. I am saying that I would rather back someone with (generally) over 5 years of legal studies.

From previous posts, you seem to have an inherent dislike for anyone in a position of authority, particularly when it comes to the legal side of things.
 


bhaexpress

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How can you be so sure? Her exposure to males is at least limited seeing she was at a girls public school. Hardly enough experiance of life to find out if she is straight, bi or lessa before the nonce moved in.

Well as she seems happy enough to continue the relationship where's the problem. She was a matter of months from becoming legally able to make her choices for a start. Also, as I have said elsewhere, we have a higher age of consent than many European countries which is a factor. As you should be aware many people are confused about their sexuality during their teens and quite often realise their orientation when they are older. Seeing as the victim was more than willing to participate (newspaper reports say she actually brought the issue on) I really cannot see what real harm as been done.

As for the school's reputation, what are you talking about ? Where are they tarnished ? If it's for employing a teacher of questionable character that's hardly unique and certainly not likely be of any interest to anybody who doesn't have a narrow mind.
 


bhaexpress

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A blood relative is a judge, a good family friend is a judge, I live with a lawyer and a trainee lawyer and I have studied various parts of the law myself.

I am not sure what agenda I have, other than the upholding of the law?

What other sex offenders? What cases are you referring to?

We do have a higher age of consent than most countries, but where should you draw the line, other than at the age of 16 when judging such a case? There are mentally mature 13 year olds and immature 15 year olds.

You are assuming that a judge releases someone or sets someone free on a whim, without any knowledge of legal pratices and/or case law. Of course, there are going to be mistakes made, but you are proposing that you know better than this particular judge or other judges. I am saying that I would rather back someone with (generally) over 5 years of legal studies.

I am not saying that but surely you have to admit that there are plenty of judges who often make questionable decisions based on their own agendas. For example, the ones who let drivers who have killed or seriously injured somebody get off with a light sentence or even a fine and points. I wonder what the sentence would have been if the woman was not a teacher. I think she will be released on appeal but we will see.

But believe me, judges are as fallible as anybody else. As for lawyers and solicitors, don't make me laugh. I used to be on a pub quiz team where I was the only person not in the legal profession. I would definitely question many of their motives. Many of them put the winning of their case well before justice. I could give some classic examples but I find it amazing that opposing counsel will happily lunch together during a case.
 




El Presidente

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that must be frustrating for you with the restricted access to porn on your work computer?

Not at all. My specialist area of research is the financing of the adult entertainment industry. There is a world of difference between porn and downloading sexualised pictures of children, just as there is a world of difference between an adult sexual relationship and paedophilia......or would you disagree?
 


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1066gull

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Three years ago I personally was concerned at the amount of times I used adult entertainment but the way I look at it, the phrase I was taught that 'we all go through that time' cannot be more true because nowadays I realise emotions can really be controlled. During adolescence, I am forgiving, because I experienced too where you 'just can't control yourself' but any adult who uses it as a genuine excuse in later adult life is lying to themselves and if commit unlawful acts should be punished for it.

It's the same with bad language, you wouldn't swear on front of a customer wouldn't you?
 


El Presidente

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Three years ago I personally was concerned at the amount of times I used adult entertainment but the way I look at it, the phrase I was taught that 'we all go through that time' cannot be more true because nowadays I realise emotions can really be controlled. During adolescence, I am forgiving, because I experienced too where you 'just can't control yourself' but any adult who uses it as a genuine excuse in later adult life is lying to themselves and if commit unlawful acts should be punished for it.

Has this post been produced by a random word generator?
 










Theatre of Trees

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Jul 5, 2003
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its not the first time this has happend though, CRB checks anyone??

It was her first offence so to speak so the CRB would have been clean and made no difference.

Getting a post in a private school is also a lot easier without proper teaching qualifications, if she was a gifted child prodigy it may well be she was taken on by her reputation and ability with the instrument rather than being able to teach.
 




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Face a few facts of this case. Technically she is a paedophile but we are not talking advanced kiddy fiddling here. The 'Victim' was within months of her 16th birthday (above the age of consent). She was a willing participant and both parties wish to continue their relationship as soon as they can. The 'child' was not groomed and the convicted is not a serial or persistent offender.

The sentence is very out of proportion and frankly seems to indicate more than a slight homophobic stance. I think that on appeal the woman will be released. Losing her career is more than enough punishment.
im f***ing astonished by this , would you still consider it "technical" paedophilia if it was a fifteen year old boy getting his arse reamed out ? with or without his consent ?
 


bhaexpress

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im f***ing astonished by this , would you still consider it "technical" paedophilia if it was a fifteen year old boy getting his arse reamed out ? with or without his consent ?

I'm astonished you're getting so worked up about this. Frankly, it's an opinion which if you read the thread thoroughly others share, granted others don't. I doubt that you have actually weighed up the full facts but instead just decided to have yet another one of your tiresome rants. Of course you resorting to totally unnecessary profanity doesn't do your view any favours either.
 


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