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Why are exams so easy?



KneeOn

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Jun 4, 2009
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Because f***ing exam boards can't f***ing write a book that gives us any kind of understanding of the subject we're fuckings studying.

Example: I take computing A2. For the COMP4 unit we have to do our own researched, planned and executed project i.e make a program.

Firstly my college is wank. We're using Delphi/Pascal. THAT HAS NOT BEEN UPDATED SINCE THE f***ing EIGHTIES. I'm learning it just to learn a new language in a years time at Uni since Delphi is utter shite.

AQA is my exam board.

Firstly delphi has no easy way of making a clock. I want to make it run so 1 game minute = 1 real second. This underpins my ENTIRE game for my end of A level project. No, its not just setting a timer so every 1000 miliseconds a variable increments by one and is written out. Its "hey make a new f***ing class, do all kinds of shit and then because i'm a shit program to do ANYTHING meaningful in, i'm not going to work".

However. This is a limitation with the program i'm using to write my game. You can work around it.

The reason exams are so easy?

EXAMBOARDS CAN'T WRITE A BOOK. My text book has about 4 lines on making classes and then some shoddily organized code with breaks, so you don't know if its 1 program, 8 programs, if they're units in the same program, new classes, anything.

No wonder exams are easy, we can only do whats put in front of us and they put in front of us what their specifications says we need to know. If their book is based on their spec, then you can base the difficulty of the exam on the book/spec.

Utter utter wank course, a HUGE level of understanding required because its a totally new subject for students at my college since the school don't offer it (until next year that is) and they supply a book that doesn't provide anythign meaningful apart from what THAT BIT OF CODE IN THE BOOK DOES AND EVEN THEN ITS POORLY WRITTEN AND TELLS YOU f*** ALL.

SO older generation, if you want to know why exams are easy, its because they can't really test us on things their EXCLUSIVELY ENDORSED book don't teach us.

:tantrum::tantrum: :tantrum::tantrum: :tantrum:
 






KneeOn

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Jun 4, 2009
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I've got a job thank you very much.

4.35 an hour.

I chose to be at college, I enjoy the idea of learning. I love computing, it'd be nice if the exam boards let us have a book that covered a more advanced spec, and didn't fill it with useless shit. that way you can't complain exams are too f***ing easy.
 


brighton_girl87

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Jul 18, 2006
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Just have to put up with it and get the best grades possible so you can get into your first choice University. Once you are at Uni you will love it, especially if you are doing a subject you are really interested in and enjoy.
 


gullshark

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Dec 5, 2005
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You are learning how to code properly, I thank the computer science gods that you're not all taught just shite like flash instead of C or Java.

I can only imagine someone who can make something move about in flash sit down and try and write Objective C so they can make something move about on their iPhone...
 




Braders

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Jul 15, 2003
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Brighton, United Kingdom
I've always struggled with exams :down: , not due to being thick (for a change) but because the pressure gets to me
 




clapham_gull

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Aug 20, 2003
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You are completely wrong on the language front - you have to start off learning something, so may as well use that.

Thank your lucky stars they aren't teaching you Visual Basic.

Personally I'd teach you C++ and also make you a bit of assembly.

(and when was C++ last updated.....)

I currently work alongside some very sophisticated software - all new, all written in Delphi. Works fine because the programmers know what they are doing.
 
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You are learning how to code properly, I thank the computer science gods that you're not all taught just shite like flash instead of C or Java.

I can only imagine someone who can make something move about in flash sit down and try and write Objective C so they can make something move about on their iPhone...

Neil you did Comp Science at Sussex yeah? What's the Maths side like? Do you use much C++?
 


WATFORD zero

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Jul 10, 2003
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But shirley there has to be a million Delphi books knocking round the second hand shops - doesn't that come under research ?
 


You are completely wrong on the language front - you have to start off learning something, so may as well us those.

Thank your lucky stars they aren't teaching you Visual Basic.

Personally I'd teach you C++ and also make you a bit of Assembly.

is it not better to learn the most difficult and daddy of them all (C?) first then learn the backwards compatibles? in your opinion, like
 




Braders

Abi Fletchers Gimpboy
Jul 15, 2003
29,224
Brighton, United Kingdom
You are completely wrong on the language front - you have to start off learning something, so may as well use that.

Thank your lucky stars they aren't teaching you Visual Basic.

Personally I'd teach you C++ and also make you a bit of assembly.
I started "Programming" using Visual Basics at College , then thrown into Java at University

exactly.
 


KneeOn

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Jun 4, 2009
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I've not really got a huge problem with Delphi, i know its useless in industry but its easy to pick up and I was able to look at VB source today (Last year did their COMP2 - thats the AS programming cource - and COMP4 in VB) and found my self not struggling to see what the code was doing.

ITS f***ing AQA. I really really really cannot believe that this book is all we have that has been offically endorsed. Its a joke quite fankly and no wonder exams are getting easier (Edexel's science GCSE contained 60% Multiple choice exams... walked to an A with no revision because its piss easy).
 


brighton_girl87

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Jul 18, 2006
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It is good to have an understanding of one programming language before you begin your degree, what ever it may be, it makes things a lot easier when you actually know what they are talking about when they start talking about classes, arrays etc.
 








KneeOn

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Jun 4, 2009
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But shirley there has to be a million Delphi books knocking round the second hand shops - doesn't that come under research ?

We've got another book but its got the same problem. Its a good reference tool once you've learnt but as a teaching aid its useless too. Doesn't explain what the code does, just got lines of code that if typed in does things (sometimes).
 


gullshark

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Dec 5, 2005
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¤DãŃn¥ §êãGüLL¤;3787916 said:
Neil you did Comp Science at Sussex yeah? What's the Maths side like? Do you use much C++?

Yes I did. Sussex likes to teach Java, I didn't do any C++ (in 2003). Maths was alright, but some of it was a right mindfuck.

Here are wikipedia pages of the maths stuff I at least remember...

Algorithm - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Computability theory - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Computational complexity theory - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Turing machine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Formal language - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Computer architecture - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

We also did Java, Flash :)(), Haskell (ew), Prolog, Matlab and other bits that I can't really remember atm.
 




WATFORD zero

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¤DãŃn¥ §êãGüLL¤;3787921 said:
is it not better to learn the most difficult and daddy of them all (C?)

Not if you don't want bad habits !

I've just realised i'm trying to stop Danny Seagull developing bad habits :facepalm:
 




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