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[Albion] Who will leave us in the summer



Gabbiano

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Dec 18, 2017
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Losing Pedro would be a step too far for me. I’d be very upset. Hopefully the Caicedo story will convince him to do at least another year.

I predict the following players leave:

The big £s summer transfer:
Mitoma

Cashing in on loan players:
Undav
Sima
Dahoud
Sarmiento
Kozlowski
Alzate

Retirement or a step down to the Championship:
Lallana
Milner

Loan return:
Ansu Fati

Too injured:
Lamptey?? (I think he is one injury away from getting the push)

Skill set not required by RDZ:
Moder
Webster (if we sign someone else first)
This seems pretty close to the mark to me.

Pervis and Mitoma seem the highest likelihood to go for big bucks, but their form is patchy and there's less money swilling around now. João Pedro I think will stay another year.

There are also a LOT of kids out on loan or on the fringes who may go elsewhere for opportunities, or because the club rates others more highly.

We might see the likes of Leonard, Moran, Weir, Rushworth, Peupion, Kozlowski in pre season as a test of their levels but they won't all make it and some might be shifted with a chunky sell on clause a la Gyokeres.

Lamptey needs to prove he can stay fit until the end of the season, but RDZ seems to really like the lad and is giving him opportunities.
 






LamieRobertson

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Feb 3, 2008
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I’ve popped down to see the lady at the pier but she’s run out of tea and she’s got a couple of plasters on her palms ..I’ll have to get back to you
 


MJsGhost

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Jun 26, 2009
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On no account must Pedro be sold this summer. We need at least one, if not two more years out of him, as he helps us to win our first major trophy. Then he can leave with our blessings for a record shattering fee.
I love these bold pronouncements...

If PSG comes calling with an Mbappe-shaped hole in the team and dangles £150m in oil-soaked fifties, you don't think the club might be in a better position by taking it?

c £50m to invest in a 1st team-ready replacement.
c £50m to invest in starlets for the season after next.
c £50m to keep the club well in the black.

Obviously I don't want him to go but, as with Caicedo, if someone comes in with a ridiculous bid, he'll be gone.

I completely trust Bloom and Barber to know the amount where the risk of a (temporary) downturn in results is offset by the future benefit of that amount of cash to keep on investing.
 


Stat Brother

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Jul 11, 2003
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I love these bold pronouncements...

If PSG comes calling with an Mbappe-shaped hole in the team and dangles £150m in oil-soaked fifties, you don't think the club might be in a better position by taking it?

c £50m to invest in a 1st team-ready replacement.
c £50m to invest in starlets for the season after next.
c £50m to keep the club well in the black.

Obviously I don't want him to go but, as with Caicedo, if someone comes in with a ridiculous bid, he'll be gone.

I completely trust Bloom and Barber to know the amount where the risk of a (temporary) downturn in results is offset by the future benefit of that amount of cash to keep on investing.
Not to mention £150m 'keep everyone else' tokens.
 




Tom Hark Preston Park

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Jul 6, 2003
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I love these bold pronouncements...

If PSG comes calling with an Mbappe-shaped hole in the team and dangles £150m in oil-soaked fifties, you don't think the club might be in a better position by taking it?

c £50m to invest in a 1st team-ready replacement.
c £50m to invest in starlets for the season after next.
c £50m to keep the club well in the black.

Obviously I don't want him to go but, as with Caicedo, if someone comes in with a ridiculous bid, he'll be gone.

I completely trust Bloom and Barber to know the amount where the risk of a (temporary) downturn in results is offset by the future benefit of that amount of cash to keep on investing.
Pedro's barely started on his footballing journey. He could easily usurp Richarlison in the Brazil line-up earlydoors. Looks the part. I'm afraid I don't share your trust in Bloom and Barber not to sell the boy off prematurely. They've got previous. Bank balance will be healthier, team will be weaker. Clearly the higher up the footballing food chain you go, the harder it becomes to replace like for like. At a certain level the algorithm will be of limited use

*edit* 'trust' is probably the wrong word. It's their club, they can run it exactly as they see fit, no matter how frustring it sometimes gets for us fans fir them not to exactly bust a gut to retain a player that wants to leave
 
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Shins

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Aug 13, 2015
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With Caicedo being sold possibly a year earlier than expected, maybe there won't be one this year. Plenty of wages being freed up with Fati's loan ending and Lallana possibly retiring. Plus lots of players on the fringes of the squad that would still go for good money. Cba to rename all those mentioned in the thread so far.
 






Simster

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Jul 7, 2003
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Pedro's barely started on his footballing journey. He could easily usurp Richarlison in the Brazil line-up earlydoors. Looks the part. I'm afraid I don't share your trust in Bloom and Barber not to sell the boy off prematurely. They've got previous. Bank balance will be healthier, team will be weaker. Clearly the higher up the footballing food chain you go, the harder it becomes to replace like for like. At a certain level the algorithm will be of limited use
Selling our players for £100m+ is not "prematurely" - it's peak time. Keeping anyone against their will isn't in anyone's best interest. We're better off accepting that our stars will be sold when offers come in that can't be refused. I mean it's not as if our recruitment has been dire. We finished 6th last season, we're still in 2 cups (including Europe) and 8th in the league this season despite selling our two best players and allowing a goal scorer coming good to leave on loan.
 




Shins

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Aug 13, 2015
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I think Moder needs to go. I've yet to see anything, especially post-comeback, to suggest he's worth keeping.
Difficult for a player coming back mid season. I don't disagree and think it'll be difficult for him to stay if De Zerbi is still in charge, but expect them to make a decision after he has the majority of a full pre season with the team.
 




MJsGhost

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Pedro's barely started on his footballing journey. He could easily usurp Richarlison in the Brazil line-up earlydoors. Looks the part. I'm afraid I don't share your trust in Bloom and Barber not to sell the boy off prematurely. They've got previous. Bank balance will be healthier, team will be weaker. Clearly the higher up the footballing food chain you go, the harder it becomes to replace like for like. At a certain level the algorithm will be of limited use
Clearly, Barbs and Bloom know what they are doing. They probably have almost as good an idea as you regarding Joao Pedro's standing in the Brazil squad and may even factor that into their thinking when coming up with the number...
I can't think of anyone else better placed to make that call - what's the 'previous' you're referring to? Whoever it was is likely to be completely outweighed by holding out for an extra £20m for Ben White, an extra £25-30m for Cucurella and an extra c £50m for Caicedo.
 








Tom Hark Preston Park

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Jul 6, 2003
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Selling our players for £100m+ is not "prematurely" - it's peak time. Keeping anyone against their will isn't in anyone's best interest. We're better off accepting that our stars will be sold when offers come in that can't be refused. I mean it's not as if our recruitment has been dire. We finished 6th last season, we're still in 2 cups (including Europe) and 8th in the league this season despite selling our two best players and allowing a goal scorer coming good to leave on loan.
Totally agree. Tho we have fallen victim to a significant number of key players downing tools in the past couple of seasons. Wouldn't do any harm IMHO to let one of them just sit and rot for quite a long while pour encourager les autres
 


Gwylan

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Jul 5, 2003
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Milner - don't see the point in him.
Sarmiento - way down the list of choice.
Milner will be desperate to stay to beat Barry's record. He brings a lot to the club beyond his playing, by all accounts he's a good influence on the younger players.

I can't see Sarmiento going, particularly if Mitoma is out the door, we'll need to hang on to our wide players
 


GT49er

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Feb 1, 2009
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Why on earth are so many people so keen to show Moder the door? Looked a very good player before his injury, no reason he can't be again.

Alzate - out of contract, I believe - will almost certainly go to somewhere he is wanted. Rangers might want to keep Sima, but whether they can afford him, and whether we don't mind not making much profit on him are two doubtfuls in that scenario. Kozlowski appears to be in his comfort zone, so may well want to stay there (not much, if any, profit there, then).
 


WATFORD zero

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Jul 10, 2003
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Pedro's barely started on his footballing journey. He could easily usurp Richarlison in the Brazil line-up earlydoors. Looks the part. I'm afraid I don't share your trust in Bloom and Barber not to sell the boy off prematurely. They've got previous. Bank balance will be healthier, team will be weaker. Clearly the higher up the footballing food chain you go, the harder it becomes to replace like for like. At a certain level the algorithm will be of limited use

*edit* 'trust' is probably the wrong word. It's their club, they can run it exactly as they see fit, no matter how frustring it sometimes gets for us fans fir them not to exactly bust a gut to retain a player that wants to leave

I'm struggling to think of one, any clues :wink:
 






Behind Enemy Lines

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Jul 18, 2003
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I love these bold pronouncements...

If PSG comes calling with an Mbappe-shaped hole in the team and dangles £150m in oil-soaked fifties, you don't think the club might be in a better position by taking it?

c £50m to invest in a 1st team-ready replacement.
c £50m to invest in starlets for the season after next.
c £50m to keep the club well in the black.

Obviously I don't want him to go but, as with Caicedo, if someone comes in with a ridiculous bid, he'll be gone.

I completely trust Bloom and Barber to know the amount where the risk of a (temporary) downturn in results is offset by the future benefit of that amount of cash to keep on investing.
I'm saying what I'd like to see happen as a fan. Of course he could be sold. But I'd hope the club would say we're not selling him yet. If we can keep him, we'd almost certainly get more money than if he goes in just a few months. He's only been here for half a season and there's a compelling footballing case for him to stay and improve, especially under De Zerbi, for at least one more year.
 


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