Redgrave has won five gold medals (I think). There are hundreds of these things dished out every time the OG are held, so five makes him fairly irrelevant in history. The Queen has ruled our country for SIXTY years and David Beckham is arguably the most recognisable living Englishman. They are both far greater achievements in my book. If we were talking about the opening of a leisure centre I'd agree with you, but the WORLD will be watching our country in a couple of weeks. That's quite a big deal and doesn't happen very often. Let's not show them how mediocre we really are putting forward rowers and other nonsense sportsmen.
Redgrave has won five gold medals (I think). There are hundreds of these things dished out every time the OG are held, so five makes him fairly irrelevant in history. The Queen has ruled our country for SIXTY years and David Beckham is arguably the most recognisable living Englishman. They are both far greater achievements in my book. If we were talking about the opening of a leisure centre I'd agree with you, but the WORLD will be watching our country in a couple of weeks. That's quite a big deal and doesn't happen very often. Let's not show them how mediocre we really are putting forward rowers and other nonsense sportsmen.
Redgrave has won five gold medals (I think). There are hundreds of these things dished out every time the OG are held, so five makes him fairly irrelevant in history.
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for crying out loud! David beckham did not "help us get the olympics". He just appeared on a few banners and shook a few hands. Do we really think that the international olympic committee make the decision as to which vastly expensive and incredibly detailed bid would win based on the fact that david beckham wanted it?
Perhaps that's where paris went wrong? Perhaps they should have chosen a few of their retired world cup winners to schmooze with the ioc, or to hand out yves saint laurent branded gift bags to the delegates from uganda, surinam and papua new guinea. If only they'd brought on barthez, everything would have been fine and they wouldn't have been left standing forlornly in the soggy champs elysees, weeping tears of frustration as les rosbifs started un partie magnifique dans place du trafalgar.
I have no problem with beckham as a person, but this idea that he was (a) responsible for the bid and its consequent success and (b) deserves some kind of reward for that, is utterly ludicrous.
I don't think Redgrave would embarrass the nation. I just think it would be a massive opportunity missed. He's the 'nice' option that will make a few Brits feel warm inside, but if we're serious about making a statement then we need to look many notches higher.
Muhammed Ali did it in Atlanta - that's the sort of standard I'd be looking for. Before someone points out his is an Olympic sport, I appreciate that, but it's also a serious sport that is actually worth something more than once every four years, hence he's enough of a name to make it an iconic global spectacle. Do people in the villages of China or the Australian outback give two shits about Redgrave?
He was originally but he slid down a bit...
Sorry, I think you're mistaking me for somebody who has ever watched a single event in any Olympic Games.
I just read Ali did it in 1996. There isn't a day in my life where I don't wish I was born American, so I know damn well we can't compete, but we could at least try.
. Do people in the Australian outback give two shits about Redgrave?
I don't think Redgrave would embarrass the nation. I just think it would be a massive opportunity missed. He's the 'nice' option that will make a few Brits feel warm inside, but if we're serious about making a statement then we need to look many notches higher.
Muhammed Ali did it in Atlanta - that's the sort of standard I'd be looking for. Before someone points out his is an Olympic sport, I appreciate that, but it's also a serious sport that is actually worth something more than once every four years, hence he's enough of a name to make it an iconic global spectacle. Do people in the villages of China or the Australian outback give two shits about Redgrave?
Well at least they'll enjoy it when the middle-aged baldy steps up to light the flame then. Meanwhile, the entire rest of the world will be asking: "Where's Beckham?"
You lot can mock and jeer all you like. I'll take your opinions seriously when I first hear of anybody in this country spending their weekends watching cycling, attending a local archery meeting or popping down the local pool to take in a bit of synchronised swimming. Faking a bit of interest during the good times is exactly what the "plastic" BHAFC fans are criticised for, yet here we are two weeks from an Olympics and everybody is suddenly claiming to love all these games and 'sportsmen'.
Well at least they'll enjoy it when the middle-aged baldy steps up to light the flame then. Meanwhile, the entire rest of the world will be asking: "Where's Beckham?"
You lot can mock and jeer all you like. I'll take your opinions seriously when I first hear of anybody in this country spending their weekends watching cycling, attending a local archery meeting or popping down the local pool to take in a bit of synchronised swimming. Faking a bit of interest during the good times is exactly what the "plastic" BHAFC fans are criticised for, yet here we are two weeks from an Olympics and everybody is suddenly claiming to love all these games and 'sportsmen'.
Meanwhile, anyone who knows anything about the Olympics knows EXACTLY who Steven Redgrave is, and his unsurpassed achievement.
You argument in favour of David Beckham is irrelevant.