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T soprano
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Whoever wins the play off final
SW17
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anyone but cardiff. Hopefully Huddersfield in League 1 and Crewe League 2. All in play-offs - still bits to be decided in 1&2 obviously
mune ni kamome
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I'm not sure it will be West Ham and Blackpool going up
pasty
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Who should go up?
West Ham. They finished third. I don't like the play-offs. You play a long hard season, finish third, and the team that finish 3 places lower than you could get promoted. West Ham finished 11, yes 11 points better off than Cardiff, yet Cardiff could go up and West Ham not. Wrong, IMHO*.
*I reserve the right to change my opinion should Albion ever finish 6th
West Ham. They finished third. I don't like the play-offs. You play a long hard season, finish third, and the team that finish 3 places lower than you could get promoted. West Ham finished 11, yes 11 points better off than Cardiff, yet Cardiff could go up and West Ham not. Wrong, IMHO*.
*I reserve the right to change my opinion should Albion ever finish 6th
TheMajor
BHA>CPFC
Lets get rid of West Ham - we took points off the other three.
Tricky Dicky
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I find them quite enjoyable and adds a bit of tension to the end of the season - even for a non-partisan observer. It's interesting though, how the team that finishes 3rd rarely wins the play-offs.
pasty
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Maybe "don't like the play-offs" was the wrong working - I like watching them for the tension and spectacle yes I agree. Maybe I should have said phrased it I don't agree with them.
Seagull Steve
SWC
This. I too hate the play offs for the exact same reason.
I realise they are a necessity but I just wish the playoffs were a bit fairer. There needs to be an in-built advantage for finishing as high as possible within the play offs, much as there is in the RL super league play off set up.
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There was talk a few years ago of extended play offs, this would allow more chance to give an advantage to the teams finishing higher.
Say:
3rd plays 4th with third at home and the winner goes to the final and the loser to a minor final to play the team that wins the play offs between 5th-8th for a place in the final to play the winner of the 3rd 4th game.
Due to time the games would be one offs With the higher ranked team at home, I'm sure tim will correct me but I think it's the system they used to use in the Australian league before it reformed.
Not too much, I assume the Europa league payouts and the payments from the PL will help....
I hate the 'its unfair' argument. That's nonsense - the rules are clear at the start of the season. If you enter a competition, you play to those rules. These rules mean that there is no big advantage in finishing 3rd over 6th - no point whining about it. f*** West Ham anyway - if they had appointed a manager with a bit of ability, they wouldn't have needed to worry about which play-off place they finished in.
I love the play-offs. Without them, half the teams in each league would have nothing to play for from February onwards, crowds would be down, and there would be more clubs in financial trouble. Anyone who wants to get rid of them, needs a good think.
If I were to change them at all, in the interests of 'fairness', I'd play the semi-final as just one match, with home advantage going to the higher placed team.
I love the play-offs. Without them, half the teams in each league would have nothing to play for from February onwards, crowds would be down, and there would be more clubs in financial trouble. Anyone who wants to get rid of them, needs a good think.
If I were to change them at all, in the interests of 'fairness', I'd play the semi-final as just one match, with home advantage going to the higher placed team.
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Agree with all of the above. Teams know at the start of the season that only the top two get automatic promotion. So you can't go and complain at the end that you don't get promoted if you finish third.
I've got an odd feeling for Cardiff this time round. Don't know why. Clearly they're not a better team than West Ham. Blackpool have a lot of attacking strength even if their defence is terrible. Birmingham are just a bit "meh" for me. So my hunch is Cardiff. Besides, it would be amusing if West Ham fluffed it again.
I think the idea of extending them to 6 teams, not sure how it would work but it means pretty much everyone in the league would have something to play for in the last few weeks
It's not nonsense at all. "If you enter a competition, you play to those rules." you say. Well of course, but how is that fair? What is the alternative for Wrexham, except to play Luton under those rules, having amassed 17 more points than their opponents? The play-offs are a great idea and a necessity to keep excitement up for as long as possible, but that's not to say they shouldn't be tweaked. I'd prefer something like this:
(Four "one-off" games)
3rd v 4th (at 3rd) - winner to final at Wembley, loser to minor final
5th v 6th (at 5th) - winner to minor final, loser out
minor final (at the higher placed team) - winner to final at Wembley, loser out.
play off final at Wembley - winner promoted
Simple, and much fairer.
Be pretty unfair otherwise if you ask me.
Not that simple. I'd say it's needlessly convoluted, and that the existing system works perfectly.
West Ham weren't good enough to go up AUTO. That's THEIR fault. They have however managed to get 3rd, so they get the bonus of playing the weakest side in the playoffs (according to the league table).
'bout as fair as it gets for me.