Where is the Slade/Knight/White/Brooker etc. 'in or out' poll?

[zego]

White annoys me because during interviews, while being asked questions, he is constantly going "mm-hm, mm-hm", acknowledging that the guy is asking a question. It really annoys me. He has to go.

What a f***ing cock you are I was on here most off last night and posted....f*** off and get a life you old tosser

Reasoned argument flowing in ...

 

[cjd]

What a f***ing cock you are I was on here most off last night and posted....f*** off and get a life you old tosser

I may well have used slightly different language in reply to Dougdeep..........but the sentiments would be the same.......

 

[cjd]

Three wins in four and it all goes silent. Surely some people are not so shallow to think that a few good results have removed all that is rotten to the core at the club?

I think the "silence" has followed just the one win in one.............and so it should. A victory should be enjoyed and not spoilt by complaints. God knows we,ve had few enough of them this season...!

Conversely, the appalling season following Mr. Knights catastrophic interference should be given full attention following each of our many abject performances and defeats.

 

[Acker79]

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Erm... do you serious think I want someone to be fired because he 'mm-hmm's when someone asks him a question?

 

[Acker79]

Three wins in four and it all goes silent. Surely some people are not so shallow to think that a few good results have removed all that is rotten to the core at the club?

The poll is probably hanging out at the same place some of the "where are all the negative people?" hang out when we're not winning.

I don't mean you, of course, you're here win, lose or draw. But there are posters who proclaim their absolute positivity, yet their nowhere to be seen when we lose, but they are the first to post when we win, usually deriding the negative nellies for disappearing when we win.

Some people come on here regardless. Some only come on to moan when we lose, some only come on to crow when we win. They're equally shallow, imo.

 

[El Presidente]

Conversely, the appalling season following Mr. Knights catastrophic interference should be given full attention following each of our many abject performances and defeats.

What I think you are trying to say, is that unless we win every game NSC should be BINFEST CENTRAL..........and luckily for us all, it is!

 

[cjd]

What I think you are trying to say, is that unless we win every game NSC should be BINFEST CENTRAL..........and luckily for us all, it is!

No...........what I believe is that constant poor results should be looked at and discussed ( not swept under the carpet by eternal optimists and fantasists)........points of view and opinions expressed.

Good wins should be enjoyed and savoured, not soured. If the end of the season results in promotion or play-offs........accolades should be given.

Not hopeful of too many accolades this season.........

 

[Deleted member 2719]

No...........what I believe is that constant poor results should be looked at and discussed ( not swept under the carpet by eternal optimists and fantasists)........points of view and opinions expressed.

Good wins should be enjoyed and savoured, not soured. If the end of the season results in promotion or play-offs........accolades should be given.

Not hopeful of too many accolades this season.........

Totally agree CJD - but what i would add we should have been playing for the Championship over the next few games not survival in League 1 and without having shelled out a fortune for managers and playing staff unnecessarily.

Slade and players staying in league 1 is priority when that's finished with it's time for Dick to put his hard hat back on again and because of the way he treated a loyal servant of 20 years to the club he still needs to prove he is fit to be our chairman.

 

[Common as Mook]

he still needs to prove he is fit to be our chairman.

Regardless of what has happened this season (yes it was a mistake, but mistakes happen in football all of the time) I think that is pretty low to say that he needs to prove he is fit to be our chairman. In my opinion, that has been proved consistantly over the last 13 years.

 

[Deleted member 2719]

Regardless of what has happened this season (yes it was a mistake, but mistakes happen in football all of the time) I think that is pretty low to say that he needs to prove he is fit to be our chairman. In my opinion, that has been proved consistantly over the last 13 years.

I don't think it is low,but just wanting the best for our club i have always agreed with stability for the club but "NO one man should ever be in control of our club again" and he believes IMO that he is in control.

It's all about trust and lot's of Albion fans have lost their trust in him after he sacked Wilkins.

Anyway i am sure the board will have a good look at Dicks position after the season finishes if they use their business heads and not their heart as some fans are.

 

[El Presidente]

Anyway i am sure the board will have a good look at Dicks position after the season finishes if they use their business heads and not their heart as some fans are.

Are you stark raving MAD? The current board have sunk £13million into a company that has not made a profit for over 30 years. Anyone with any business acumen would have never touched the club in the first place, UNLESS they thought they could sell off the one asset in the first place (the ground) at a substantial profit, and keep all the money themselves. But that would never happen would it.............

 

[theonesmith]

I know that yours is a view shared by some on here, but I have never quite understood why there is such vitriol towards them. I have no idea if Brooker and White are good at their jobs or not, as I don't see them in action day to day, and so don't feel qualified to judge.

Do you think that people have it in for them because they resemble a pair of old PE teachers, and it is from that 'look' that people consider them to be as useful as a turd in a bath? Or is it the supposed lack of 'passion' that irritates. For me it is talent, tactics and ability that wins matches, fans play an emotional part of the game, management provide the structure and for that a cool head is needed, but not convinced my views are universal.

Just as important, could we get someone better to replace them, for the same money?

Well, well said that man

 

[Brovion]

No...........what I believe is that constant poor results should be looked at and discussed ( not swept under the carpet by eternal optimists and fantasists)........points of view and opinions expressed.

Good wins should be enjoyed and savoured, not soured. If the end of the season results in promotion or play-offs........accolades should be given.

Not hopeful of too many accolades this season.........

Spot on. If after an all-too rare win people like Vulture were still starting threads along the lines of "Well ok we won but we're still shit" - they would quite rightly be crucified for being ultra-negative miserablists. But if they DON'T start them then there's all these sneering posts saying "Ha! Where are the knockers now? That's shut you up hasn't it?" (We used to get it whenever the team scraped a win under Adams. Yes, there were a few).

So yes, unsurprisingly everybody's celebrating the win (making it an incredibly unlikey three out of four) and hoping for another one on Tuesday. I think we'd all rather do that than moan about the club.

 

[El Presidente]

No...........what I believe is that constant poor results should be looked at and discussed ( not swept under the carpet by eternal optimists and fantasists)........points of view and opinions expressed.

Good wins should be enjoyed and savoured, not soured. If the end of the season results in promotion or play-offs........accolades should be given.

Not hopeful of too many accolades this season.........

I agree entirely, but there is a world of difference between discussing the poor results and the reasons behind them, and seeing a "Knight Out" poll at 4.52pm on a Saturday every time we lose, followed by the accusation that anyone who says 'In' is a 'Licker'.

 

[Acker79]

Are you stark raving MAD? The current board have sunk £13million into a company that has not made a profit for over 30 years. Anyone with any business acumen would have never touched the club in the first place, UNLESS they thought they could sell off the one asset in the first place (the ground) at a substantial profit, and keep all the money themselves. But that would never happen would it.............

Or if they saw a club about to grow into something bigger that they could sell for a profit. i.e. buy the struggling brighton, get them stable, a ground, get them pushing up the league, making a profit, and some middle east finance group may want to buy them, or Mike Ashley MkII might want to try to build them up further before selling them on to Billionaire Americans wanting a piece of this soccerball stuff, if the jump from Local businessman to Billionaire finance group is too big.

These days very few people put money into a football club without expecting to make money somehow. Even if, as with the Glaziers, it's a way to spread their own debt, or perhaps some tax reason.

The idea that all the people putting money into this club are doing so out of pure love for the albion and a willingness to poor money away is hard for me to accept.

 

[The Large One]

Or if they saw a club about to grow into something bigger that they could sell for a profit. i.e. buy the struggling brighton, get them stable, a ground, get them pushing up the league, making a profit, and some middle east finance group may want to buy them, or Mike Ashley MkII might want to try to build them up further before selling them on to Billionaire Americans wanting a piece of this soccerball stuff, if the jump from Local businessman to Billionaire finance group is too big.

These days very few people put money into a football club without expecting to make money somehow. Even if, as with the Glaziers, it's a way to spread their own debt, or perhaps some tax reason.

The idea that all the people putting money into this club are doing so out of pure love for the albion and a willingness to poor money away is hard for me to accept.

Every single person who has put money into the club has done so fairly safe in the knowledge that they're not going to see a return for the foreseeable future. I would be amazed if they all were paid back before 2020. Don't take my word for it (about putting money in) - ask Derek Chapman, Bill Brown, Norman Cook, Tony Bloom etc.

Falmer will allow a stability of the club, but anyone investing with a view to cleaning up on the back of the club is going to be £15m down before they even start.

 

[Behind Enemy Lines]

Two things are certain. Dick Knight will remain as Chairman and deserves to carry on in that role. As I've said many times before he has earned the right for his outstanding comittment to the club to be chairman when Falmer opens.

It's now also clear that whatever happens in the remaining three games, Slade will be appointed on a full time basis. We have all seen the passion, spirit, organisation, and confidence which he has manged to inject into the players. And I hold my hands up as someone who had reservations about him but he looks like he could be a very good manager for us. I would like to see Nicky Forster joining the coaching staff and if Slade wants to bring his own people in then he should be allowed to do so.

 

[8ace]

I know that yours is a view shared by some on here, but I have never quite understood why there is such vitriol towards them. I have no idea if Brooker and White are good at their jobs or not, as I don't see them in action day to day, and so don't feel qualified to judge.

What he said.
The manager is in charge and they are only there to assist him. If the manager is good enough then his backroom staff are mostly immaterial. Alex Ferguson has had many different assistants over the years, Archie Knox, Brian Kidd, Steve McLaren, Walter Smith, Carlos Queiroz, Mike Phelan. They have all had varied success as managers in their own right but none of them really made United more or less successful. So if Slade is happy with them then let him keep them.

 

[Spiros]

Like most on here I don't know what Dean White does on a day-to-day basis, but he's been around in his current capacity for a few years now. It's interesting to note that when we we're doing well then the manager gets the credit, but if we're not doing so well it's White who should go.

 

[El Presidente]

Or if they saw a club about to grow into something bigger that they could sell for a profit. i.e. buy the struggling brighton, get them stable, a ground, get them pushing up the league, making a profit, and some middle east finance group may want to buy them, or Mike Ashley MkII might want to try to build them up further before selling them on to Billionaire Americans wanting a piece of this soccerball stuff, if the jump from Local businessman to Billionaire finance group is too big.

These days very few people put money into a football club without expecting to make money somehow. Even if, as with the Glaziers, it's a way to spread their own debt, or perhaps some tax reason.

The idea that all the people putting money into this club are doing so out of pure love for the albion and a willingness to poor money away is hard for me to accept.

But WHERE do you get the idea that the club could grow into something bigger and profitable? They had put the £13million into the Albion BEFORE Falmer was approved. The Albion is a labour of love, your assertions are so way out of line as to be laughable. Abramovic has not made money out of Chelsea, Simon Jordan hasn't made money out of Palace, add to this list the likes of Jack Walker, Mohammed Al Fayed, Randy Lerner, The Icelanders at West Ham, Terry Venables at Spurs, Mike Ashley (currently £130m DOWN at Newcastle, and that is before they are relegated) etc and it shows that football clubs are not profitable businesses.

Our wage bill last season was about (from memory) £3.3million for the whole club, that wouldn't even pay for Lucas Neill's wages at West Ham, let alone a whole squad, management and support staff. Manchester United is the best supported club in the world, and it still fails to service the debt the Glazers have dumped on it.