And more my pompous friend
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What's the main issue with immigrants?
- Thread starter Herr Tubthumper
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And more my pompous friend
ThePompousPaladin
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- Apr 7, 2013
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Didn't the global economic downturn cause the damage?
AmexRuislip
Retired Spy 🕵️♂️
they are over here!
Creaky
Well-known member
And also have the good grace to die early and save the NHS and social services billions.
- Jan 3, 2012
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Living just outside Southampton, and spending a lot of time in that city, it has a fairly big population from the Indian Sub-continent, at least two Gurdwaras in the City Centre, fairly large numbers of Somali refugees, a historically large Polish population - historically meaning pre-dating the Second World war, let alone the EU. Numbers of eastern Europeans coming in to the City have therefore been fairly high.
And I don't have a problem with any of this AT ALL!
In fact one of the TV channels at the moment is making a documentary called "Immigrant Street" (or similar) about a local area where there is a high level of immigrant residents, and a number of local people on both sides of the equation are already complaining that the producers are trying to find and portray problems that just aren't there. In fact, quite the opposite.
bullshit detector
Back in the garage
- Nov 18, 2003
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- Jan 3, 2012
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Why is there not an "I have no problem with immigration" option. I feel excluded. This is pandering to the UKIP expectation that everyone has a problem with immigration and that we need to blow up the Channel Tunnel and destroy the Port at Dover so that Johnny Foreigner can't come over.
And I never liked Mike Read anyway - UKIP Calypso my Aunt Fanny. And did anyone see that joke of a man - Winston somebody - who was trying to defend it on Newsnight last night.
I'm getting shades of 1930's Germany here! I say that slightly tongue in cheek, but there is a serious point behind there somewhere.
And I never liked Mike Read anyway - UKIP Calypso my Aunt Fanny. And did anyone see that joke of a man - Winston somebody - who was trying to defend it on Newsnight last night.
I'm getting shades of 1930's Germany here! I say that slightly tongue in cheek, but there is a serious point behind there somewhere.
FFS - CONTROLLED immigration not NO immigration !!!!!!! It's an enditment on our education system that so few seem able to read and digest information nowadays. I blame the Greens.
- Jan 3, 2012
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I wasn't being entirely serious...................
Trufflehound
Re-enfranchised
I do hope that was ironic...
Tubby-McFat-Fuc
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Missed the main option.
We have no room for them. Our services are at bursting point, we have no room at the Inn.
Trufflehound
Re-enfranchised
Bloody Foreigner. Full stop.
On the other hand, if they are enquiring about love, then isn't that showing a wish to integrate? These are clearly the sort of Foreigner we should be welcoming.
(And yes, I do know that half of them were English anyway...)
daveinprague
New member
Not sure thats how many UKIP voters see it, from what I see on interviews..Dont think ive seen one ask for controlled immigration.. they seem to want NO immigration.
I wasn't aware that UKIP thought everyone has a problem with immigration. Good to know that everything's hunky-dory in Southampton, but there seems to be a fair bit of this about your views. Not everywhere is like Southampton.
Tom Hark Preston Park
Will Post For Cash
- Jul 6, 2003
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Maybe UK PLC could do a two-for-one offer, ship out two workshy chavs (and their dozen kids by half a dozen women) for every one skilled foreign worker. Could only improve the gene pool.
daveinprague
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Not everwhere is like Luton
That used to work, but Australia won't take 'em any more!
crookie
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I generally have no problem with immigrants, historically waves of which have been assimilated and they have generally integrated well. I work as a self-emplyed courier driver amongst other things, and there is no doubt that the increase in Eastern European immigration has driven rates down in this business as they are happy to work for £50 a day. 5 years ago there were none in our depot, now probably 50%. In a time of booming demand for parcel delivery with the massive increase in internet shopping, this should be an industry that it is profitable to be in. The fact that it is paying less than a few years ago is solely down the availability of cheap unskilled labour.
Another thing is the amount of Council/Social Housing in Tunbridge Wells that has been given to East European migrants. In Tunbridge Wells, many of these properties that I deliver to, including brand new developments, are inhabited by Eastern Europeans. In a time of chronic social housing shortages, should we be handing over this precious resource to people who have made no historical contribution financially to this country. If I was on the list, and kept getting shoved further down, you can understand resentment building, and why UKIP looks attractive to some people.
Lastly, I am no economist, but simple rules of supply and demand surely mean that increased supply of labour pushes rates of pay down, and increasing demand for housing pushes prices up. I believe the price of housing is the biggest scandal in this country and with net immigration at 200,000 last year, it's not going to bring those prices down anytime soon
Another thing is the amount of Council/Social Housing in Tunbridge Wells that has been given to East European migrants. In Tunbridge Wells, many of these properties that I deliver to, including brand new developments, are inhabited by Eastern Europeans. In a time of chronic social housing shortages, should we be handing over this precious resource to people who have made no historical contribution financially to this country. If I was on the list, and kept getting shoved further down, you can understand resentment building, and why UKIP looks attractive to some people.
Lastly, I am no economist, but simple rules of supply and demand surely mean that increased supply of labour pushes rates of pay down, and increasing demand for housing pushes prices up. I believe the price of housing is the biggest scandal in this country and with net immigration at 200,000 last year, it's not going to bring those prices down anytime soon
- Jan 3, 2012
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Slight exaggeration perhaps on my part, but Mr Farage and co. do seem to think that the vast majority of people are in their camp.
Everything seems to work reasonably well in Southampton, but there is a lot of hard work goes in to that, and I am aware it is not the same in other places. As for the "I'm All Right Jack" reference, if I lived in a place where immigration was more of a problem, I would be rolling up my sleeves and trying to do something about it - from an integration point of view.
Fair enough.
I'm all for integration too; I think it's multi-culturalism that has done a lot of damage in terms of the immigrant 'problem' - that, together with overly large numbers.