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[Football] What is a false number 9?



rogersix

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Jan 18, 2014
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no one needs to know more than, "get into them, fug them up!"

this is how pep and the rest make their millions,

this is not widely known, (my father used to play badminton with jock stein)
 








Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo

I believe in Joe Hendry
Oct 4, 2003
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Habitual User
Oct 18, 2006
25,502
Worthing
And a False 81 is when your food order never arrives because you read your Wetherspoons table number upside down :dunce:

Or a false number 2 where you sit on the toilet and curse out loud at the lack of movement
 








b.w.2.

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Jan 8, 2004
5,189
A striker who frequently drops down to midfield to participate in the game as a playmaker or carrier rather than a finisher.

Newish term, old role.

Funny. I would say an attacking midfielder who plays deeper than an actual striker. Not an actual striker playing deeper.


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b.w.2.

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Jan 8, 2004
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Another piece of footballing terminology that has crept in!! My understanding, correct or not is to avoid having a striker playing in the recognised role of a traditional "No.9 " who would typically play right up against the back 4, primarily to engage the centre-backs. With the false 9, a player will drop deeper or into any number of positions meaning the Centre-backs have to decide whether to follow, leaving spaces or to stay, leaving a player unmarked creating an overload for the opposition midfield. It seems to work best with midfielders running from deep to fill the holes left by the false 9, making them more difficult to pick up. This is where it differs a little from a simple case of a No.9 dropping deep t get the ball e.g. Harry Kane. There maybe more technically accurate descriptions, but this is my basic understanding!!

Is the correct answer


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b.w.2.

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Jan 8, 2004
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In Brighton’s case it is a term used to cover the fact that they again failed to purchase an actual striker in the summer. That said, Tross did a great job at Anfield.


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mejonaNO12 aka riskit

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Dec 4, 2003
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England
In Brighton’s case it is a term used to cover the fact that they again failed to purchase an actual striker in the summer. That said, Tross did a great job at Anfield.


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Us playing without a recognised striker must have almost triggered a panic attack for you.
 


Bold Seagull

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Mar 18, 2010
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Hove
In Brighton’s case it is a term used to cover the fact that they again failed to purchase an actual striker in the summer. That said, Tross did a great job at Anfield.

What is it in Man City or Liverpool's case, given both Jota and Foden have played the false-9 this season?
 


Not Andy Naylor

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Dec 12, 2007
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Seven Dials
As Eric Youngs Contact Lens says, the system works best when midfield players take advantage of the space where a conventional striker would be by making late runs, but we had an example of where it needs the rest of the team to be aware of the possibilities when Solly March was put through on the left early in the game at Anfield. In theory, he should have looked up to see Lallana, Mwepu, Moder etc charging forward in support but instead he was on his own. It worked better later on when the players had got used to it.
 




mejonaNO12 aka riskit

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Dec 4, 2003
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In Brighton’s case it is a term used to cover the fact that they again failed to purchase an actual striker in the summer. That said, Tross did a great job at Anfield.


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This also makes no sense as we had our top scorer (who is a striker) on the bench.

So it wasn't due to a lack of striker.

Try harder
 




Saladpack Seagull

Just Shut Up and Paddle
And if you wanted to be really foreign, the sweeper should be a "libero".

I learnt the word "libero" from a Juventus fan last year. Such was his command of English that he understood not only the term "false 9" but also "playing in the hole"! I fell about laughing as I was in the middle of describing what "in the hole" meant but needn't have bothered as he said it before I finished! If only my command of Italian terminology were as good!
 


Machiavelli

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Oct 11, 2013
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Fiveways
As Eric Youngs Contact Lens says, the system works best when midfield players take advantage of the space where a conventional striker would be by making late runs, but we had an example of where it needs the rest of the team to be aware of the possibilities when Solly March was put through on the left early in the game at Anfield. In theory, he should have looked up to see Lallana, Mwepu, Moder etc charging forward in support but instead he was on his own. It worked better later on when the players had got used to it.

Agree on that passage of play. Moder (who I like) was jogging, when I thought he should have been busting a gut to get in the penalty area. But there were several other passages of play at Anfield where it did work. Tross' goal would be the obvious example, but there were others.
 




Justice

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Jun 21, 2012
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Born In Shoreham
As Eric Youngs Contact Lens says, the system works best when midfield players take advantage of the space where a conventional striker would be by making late runs, but we had an example of where it needs the rest of the team to be aware of the possibilities when Solly March was put through on the left early in the game at Anfield. In theory, he should have looked up to see Lallana, Mwepu, Moder etc charging forward in support but instead he was on his own. It worked better later on when the players had got used to it.
VVD didn’t really get into the game either he’s good when he sits on a traditional no.9 and the fuss he made when March accidentally kicked him the big sissy.
 


b.w.2.

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Jan 8, 2004
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Us playing without a recognised striker must have almost triggered a panic attack for you.

It did before the game. But, as I said, Tross was magnificent. Just for balance, we have still not won a game where we have played zero strikers under Potter. Admittedly he has done this when playing the big boys only (IIRC).


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