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[Albion] West Ham thoughts



Uh_huh_him

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Sep 28, 2011
12,110
I noticed that Maty Ryan was kicking most Goal kicks in the first half.

Is that new? or is it more common in away matches?
First time I'd noticed it, and assumed it was because Muzza was on the pitch.
 




Herr Tubthumper

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NSC Patron
Jul 11, 2003
62,680
The Fatherland
Renewing ya 1901 are you? Whilst no doubt feeling strongly about 'inequality' and 'poverty'

1901 tickets still have a season to run before renewal; they run for 5 years. Ask me this time next year.
 


amexer

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Aug 8, 2011
6,829
Yes you do, you don't like being called out for being a hypocritical snob. Renewing ya 1901 are you? Whilst no doubt feeling strongly about 'inequality' and 'poverty'

What on earth has membership of 1901 got to do with this thread. Plenty in there I know who choose to give up a lot to enable them to afford it.
 


Kalimantan Gull

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Aug 13, 2003
13,436
Central Borneo / the Lizard
Ah, good old NSC, the cut and thrust of intellectual debate...

For what its worth, I think that West Ham will be fine, just because I DO think they are 'too good to go down' - when they have Anderson back and Bowen in the team, with the other new signing Soucek, I believe they will survive.

Moyes did this last time too, took ages to get them going but then went on a run and they stayed up. Their upcoming fixtures are horrendous, but then the ones after that aren't so bad. Although a very tasty West Ham v Aston Villa fixture on the last day.

The counter-point, they will have fellow relegation battlers three of the last four games, Norwich and Watford as well as Villa, and you probably prefer mid-table sides at the end; Moyes may well be trying to rely on the same players that saved him last time, like Masuaku and Lanzini, which could be a mistake; and is the Stuart Pearce factor important?
 


Lady Whistledown

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Jul 7, 2003
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I find the whole Stratford area really soulless and bland. Loads of cheap looking new buildings, separated by loads of open land which is carved up by canals, railway lines and roads. We went to Hackney Wick after the game, to Crate and Howling Hops which I liked.

It’s quite post-apocalyptic, I think. I was having this conversation with [MENTION=27447]Goldstone1976[/MENTION] as we walked there on Saturday afternoon. “Dystopian” was his word.


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Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
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It’s quite post-apocalyptic, I think. I was having this conversation with [MENTION=27447]Goldstone1976[/MENTION] as we walked there on Saturday afternoon. “Dystopian” was his word.


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Agree, and I should start using these terms instead of shit hole; far more eloquent.
 


Super Steve Earle

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Feb 23, 2009
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North of Brighton
Ah, good old NSC, the cut and thrust of intellectual debate...

For what its worth, I think that West Ham will be fine, just because I DO think they are 'too good to go down' - when they have Anderson back and Bowen in the team, with the other new signing Soucek, I believe they will survive.

Moyes did this last time too, took ages to get them going but then went on a run and they stayed up. Their upcoming fixtures are horrendous, but then the ones after that aren't so bad. Although a very tasty West Ham v Aston Villa fixture on the last day.

The counter-point, they will have fellow relegation battlers three of the last four games, Norwich and Watford as well as Villa, and you probably prefer mid-table sides at the end; Moyes may well be trying to rely on the same players that saved him last time, like Masuaku and Lanzini, which could be a mistake; and is the Stuart Pearce factor important?

It was easier for Moyes last time. Get them fitter, organised for his meat and two veg formation and drop Joe Hart. Job done. This time Noble is older and not looking that fit. Wilshire remains uninfluential and is never fit. They look weak and old fashioned. They can't manage 90 minutes as a unit and look like a lot of football is off the cuff rather than trained in. Their fans on their forums have little faith in them. I'm no fan of West Ham and I'm hopeful they are locking down one of those 3 relegation places. By the way, it's a bit shitty at the moment, but my son lives in a new apartment overlooking the stadium. Transport is excellent. Lots of building creating green spaces, restaurants, shops etc. Plus the MSG globe which will knock the Amex in to a cocked hat regarding light pollution if it goes ahead! It's quite the up and coming area, but it will still have a shitty club in the middle of it:smile:
 


daveinplzen

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Aug 31, 2018
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Ah, good old NSC, the cut and thrust of intellectual debate...

For what its worth, I think that West Ham will be fine, just because I DO think they are 'too good to go down' - when they have Anderson back and Bowen in the team, with the other new signing Soucek, I believe they will survive.

Moyes did this last time too, took ages to get them going but then went on a run and they stayed up. Their upcoming fixtures are horrendous, but then the ones after that aren't so bad. Although a very tasty West Ham v Aston Villa fixture on the last day.

The counter-point, they will have fellow relegation battlers three of the last four games, Norwich and Watford as well as Villa, and you probably prefer mid-table sides at the end; Moyes may well be trying to rely on the same players that saved him last time, like Masuaku and Lanzini, which could be a mistake; and is the Stuart Pearce factor important?


On their forum they are now down
 




Weststander

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Aug 25, 2011
69,238
Withdean area
Ah, good old NSC, the cut and thrust of intellectual debate...

For what its worth, I think that West Ham will be fine, just because I DO think they are 'too good to go down' - when they have Anderson back and Bowen in the team, with the other new signing Soucek, I believe they will survive.

Moyes did this last time too, took ages to get them going but then went on a run and they stayed up. Their upcoming fixtures are horrendous, but then the ones after that aren't so bad. Although a very tasty West Ham v Aston Villa fixture on the last day.

The counter-point, they will have fellow relegation battlers three of the last four games, Norwich and Watford as well as Villa, and you probably prefer mid-table sides at the end; Moyes may well be trying to rely on the same players that saved him last time, like Masuaku and Lanzini, which could be a mistake; and is the Stuart Pearce factor important?

That’s the spending on recruitment = staying up argument, buying yourselves out of trouble. I usually think along the same lines. Villa too added players in January.

Outgunning ££££ Brighton, Burnley, Bmuff and Watford, to pull away.

I hope we’re wrong and it fails.
 


Kalimantan Gull

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Aug 13, 2003
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Central Borneo / the Lizard
That’s the spending on recruitment = staying up argument, buying yourselves out of trouble. I usually think along the same lines. Villa too added players in January.

Outgunning ££££ Brighton, Burnley, Bmuff and Watford, to pull away.

I hope we’re wrong and it fails.

Well, they're substantially richer than us. Its a bit like saying Manchester United buy themselves out of relegation trouble every season. They have the money, they spend it.

Every club on your list does that. Brighton have spent a fortune over the last three seasons to stay up. It was posted on here that we're the 10th biggest net spenders on transfer fees in Europe over the past few seasons. So I guess I hope that, in our case at least, it DOESNT fail.

Villa just bought a striker for £10m and loaned in a 37-year old goalie and a Danny Drinkwater. We'll see who that outguns I suppose
 


Weststander

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Aug 25, 2011
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Withdean area
Well, they're substantially richer than us. Its a bit like saying Manchester United buy themselves out of relegation trouble every season. They have the money, they spend it.

Every club on your list does that. Brighton have spent a fortune over the last three seasons to stay up. It was posted on here that we're the 10th biggest net spenders on transfer fees in Europe over the past few seasons. So I guess I hope that, in our case at least, it DOESNT fail.

Villa just bought a striker for £10m and loaned in a 37-year old goalie and a Danny Drinkwater. We'll see who that outguns I suppose

Your post mentioned Anderson, Soucek and Bowen in your argument as to why you see WHU staying up. I’m agreeing with you. Quality of players keeping them up.
 






Albion Prem

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Nov 23, 2018
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Lindfield
West Ham Thoughts

I dare to mock West Ham, Villa or Watford at this stage.

Fail to beat Watford and the joke’s on us.

The former 2 going down would be funny though, after their vast spending each recent window and some supporters with bizarrely inflated egos.

I watched Watfords game on Saturday and we will have to be on top form to get a point,particularly if Duffy is still injuried
 










Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,947
Surrey
Antonio is WHU best player if he stops playing they are a lot less effective.
Yep. Antonio has looked the best player on the pitch for large spells in both of our last 2 visits there.

Personally I still think they're going down. Poor manager, crap board and a bunch of overpaid, demotivated players.
 


Sirnormangall

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Sep 21, 2017
3,178
Antonio is WHU best player if he stops playing they are a lot less effective.
Agreed - I think that was the turning point in the match when they took him off on Saturday. He was their most threatening playing to that point and from there on in, against a more defensive formation, we over-ran them, particularly down our right where Antonio had been. Big mistake by Moyes - good tactical substitution by Potter ( though not many of us thought that at the time!).
 




Kalimantan Gull

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Aug 13, 2003
13,436
Central Borneo / the Lizard
Your post mentioned Anderson, Soucek and Bowen in your argument as to why you see WHU staying up. I’m agreeing with you. Quality of players keeping them up.

Yes. But then I interpreted it as a dig on Brighton, as if we're deliberately not spending.

West Ham were supposed to be challenging top 4 this season. That might have been a pipe dream but it's ridiculous they are where they are.

And they very much could still fall. I'll bet against it, but it could happen
 


Weststander

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Aug 25, 2011
69,238
Withdean area
Yes. But then I interpreted it as a dig on Brighton, as if we're deliberately not spending.

West Ham were supposed to be challenging top 4 this season. That might have been a pipe dream but it's ridiculous they are where they are.

And they very much could still fall. I'll bet against it, but it could happen

Hand on heart, I didn’t. Purely commenting on those 2 clubs having a possible advantage over the 4 I listed.


But in the transfer window, before MacAllister and Lamptey, I’ll admit to being frustrated that Villa and Sheff Utd were doing business, when we hadn’t concluded anything and no rumours. MacAliister and Lamptey raised my optimism hugely.
 


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