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Well, thanks Sven.



Easy 10

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Jul 5, 2003
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Thanks for failing to find a cohesive, effective, consistant system of play that could actually beat anyone semi-decent during your 6 years in charge.

Thanks for persisting with The Obvious XI without making any provision for when key players are missing or (gulp) a bit off form.

Thanks for taking us to a World Cup without having tried Carrick or Hargreaves in a holding midfield role until it actually mattered.

Thanks for taking us to a World Cup with two injured strikers, an untried kid, and Crouch.

Thanks for leaving us stranded with Rooney having to plough a lone furrow on his own up front because you didn't take enough strikers.

Thanks for blindly persisting with the Gerrard/Lampard 4-4-2 for five years when most others realised after a handful of games that it just didn't work.

Thanks for sticking with all your faves regardless of form, fitness or contribution to the cause.

Thanks for all your inspirational and highly effective half time team talks.

Thanks for all the tactical nouse and fabulously productive tactical changes that swung so many games in our favour.

Thanks for being so calm all the time, specially on that bench. Its SUCH a help.

Thanks for bringing Tord Grip along to the party. He really is great at putting those cones out and handing out the bibs.

Thanks for your enthralling and enlightening press conferences, which really are compulsive viewing and not at all similar year in year out.

And finally. Thanks for completely f***ing up this entire World Cup campaign. With these players, I'm not sure anyone could have been quite so comprehensively inept in a Finals tournament. England truley stank from start to finish, and looking at the players we have, it takes a special kind of coach to achieve that.
Now take your handsome payoff from the FA. And f***. Off.
 






Beach Hut

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Blame one but collectively perhaps we were never up for it.
 




Easy 10

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Lush said:
Shouldn't the real blame lie with his employers? Whose next choice is looking just as inspirational.... :nono: :nono: :nono:
One of my abiding memories will be of Sven on the pitch at the end of 90 minutes, presumably giving his big motivational rallying-call, and nobody was paying a blind bit of notice to him. Terry was wandering around dousing himself with water, Ashley Cole had his back turned, a couple of them were talking amongst themselves. Only Lampard actually seemed to be listening to Sven.

The fella was a lame duck, a busted flush. There was NOTHING he could give those players either tactically, or in inspiration, or in motivation, and they knew it. We might as well have had Garth Crooks rallying them.

I'm so glad we've seen the back of SGE, but I sincerely fear McLaren will just be more of the same. Gutted.
 
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Easy 10

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Oceanic said:
f*** me, the twat was a complete muppet from day one but every twat stuck by him and now we're out you all start slating him, piss off.
Oh yeah.
I've been Svens biggest fan up until this evening.



:rolleyes:
 


Beach Hut

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It is far deeper than that, players must accept some responsibility as well.
 


Easy 10

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I accept the players arn't blameless Mr Hut. Too many of them did not perform to anywhere near their potential in thise tournament. But do you feel the coach gave us the best possible chance for success this time ?
 






Richard Whiteley

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Boooooooooring


Same old England. Sven can't actually go on to the pitch and make them pass the ball like the top class international players they are supposed to be.

I dread the day when we go back to a 'motivational' coach. We won't even be making the QFs then.
 






Brovion

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Jul 6, 2003
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I was thinking of you yesterday (saturday) Easy. You'd said before that you would be 'happy', relatively speaking, if England went out all guns blazing, (like 1998) and lost unluckily on penalties. Did Saturday match your criteria?

PS - That's three quarter-finals in succession and with Sven's resignation those are now officially 'The Good Old Days'. Under McClaren I think we'll struggle to win anything. I hope I'm wrong but I haven't been about England so far (he says rather smugly). Don't forget I was one of the few who said Hargreaves was a good player!

PPS - I don't think Oceanic's being paying much attention over the last 12 months or so. Either that or he's got you on 'Ignore'!
 


dougdeep

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Binney_on_acid said:
So you think that we'll be better off with Maclaren?

Not at all. Big Sam should have got the job.
 


Beach Hut

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WAGN - WE ARE GOING NOWHERE - with McClaren.
 




JJ McClure

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Jul 7, 2003
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Thanks for ripping England off to the tune of £5m a year for a part time job and deliverying precisely f*** all as a result.
 


Oceanic said:
f*** me, the twat was a complete muppet from day one but every twat stuck by him and now we're out you all start slating him, piss off.

Know doubt you'll be backing the next manager and we all know he's just as bad as that twat Swede, but You'll stand by him and we'll be even worse

:wave:


Personally, I disliked him from day one, and when we were winning, I remained scornful of the pratt.

I would also agree that McClaren is useless. His tactical 'nouse' was bared in Middlesborough's fortunate tracks to their Euro final. Yes they made it to the final, but playing sides they should have had less trouble with, before they got spanked in the final.

He apparently had little effect on Swain Boring, or the present squad - otherwise we might have heard of his objections to the selection and tactics.

The FA are ultimately the wankers that never seem to get the finger pointed at them - those f***ing IDIOTS who picked Swain, who tried to replace him with a man who can't speak English and didn't want the job (!), who threaten to deduct points from teams for struggling financially. Who allow thieves and crooks to become chairmen and send proud historic English clubs into extinction. Those morons have no clue, but are in charge of the game. How and why?
 


crasher

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Jul 8, 2003
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The central problem for me is that England still play with a sense of fear. We need a manager with the psychological skill to get rid of that so that our (undoubtedly talented) players can at least play with the freedom to hit their full potential.

Sven couldn't rid us of that fear and I'm fairly sure McLaren won't either. Deep, deep down we still suspect that "they" are better than us.
 


Beach Hut

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crasher said:
The central problem for me is that England still play with a sense of fear.

That is a big issue, the Germans are fearless at the moment hence the success.
 




Icy Gull

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Jul 5, 2003
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Beach Hut said:
That is a big issue, the Germans are fearless at the moment hence the success.

No the problem lies with a fearful manager. End Off

I've said it for 4 years, an old style Italian manager is 100% to blame for woeful performances in virtually every match we have played. "Did the job" comments from others over the years, is just hiding from the fact that the manager was not good enough, given the talent at his disposal. Never World beaters but England didn't have a chance to prove what they could do with him in charge.
 
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Seasider78

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What worried me most was that we were still experimenting with formations and players in the second round of the world cup!! Our preperation was poor despite knowing there were question marks over two players fitness we had not prepared a viable alternative.

We played too deep and lacked the passion and imagination to break down poor teams. We stumbled through games against opposition we should be comfortably beating and ended up being eliminated by a much weakened Portugese side.
 


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