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Wayne Henderson



Kinky Gerbil

Im The Scatman
NSC Patron
Jul 16, 2003
58,794
hassocks
Maybe if the next Keeper claims to be a Brighton fan he may stand a chance.

I would bet my last penny the Luton goal would have been Hendos fault, also if it was hendo in goal on Tuesday you can bet his saves wouldnt stopped shouts for him being dropped after the goal he did let in.
 








Rookie

Greetings
Feb 8, 2005
12,324
Good keeper unlucky with injuries at Preston. Ignore the muppets on here who say he wasn't any good. If he was that bad he wouldn't have been our No 1 under two different managers and a Ireland international
 






Knotty

Well-known member
Feb 5, 2004
2,421
Canterbury
He was a very good keeper who if he was here now would undoubtedly be No 1. As regards the Luton goal 100% Kuipers fault because having come for the ball he should have cleared it or if he couldnt stayed on his line where he was. He stopped Virgo from clearing the ball by bundling him out of the way but then it is very fashionable at the moment to knock Virgo.

I suggest you look at the video again. He didn't bundle Virgo out of the way at all. If FDM had carried on he would simply have kicked Virgo. As it was Virgo slightly brushed the ball as he was uncertain as to what FDM was going to do and FDM pulled out of the kick, presumably for the same reason.

To confidently apportion blame, you'd have to know who called what, but without that knowledge you'd have to blame both of them.
 


ATFC Seagull

Aberystwyth Town FC
Jul 27, 2004
5,358
(North) Portslade
he is not as good as he thinks he is...

YouTube - Ireland vs San Marino

Can't find it on youtube, but I would direct you to a string of incredible performances for the Republic, including against Sweden in a friendly at Lansdowne, saving point-blank from Larsson & Ibrahimovic efforts.

Henderson's problem with Brighton and Hove Albion was not being Kuipers. And with a certain (large) minority, dare I say it, being Irish.
 


Ninja Elephant

Doctor Elephant
Feb 16, 2009
18,855
Us not liking him had nothing to do with being Irish, what a rubbish theory that is. I can't believe how many people thought he was a good keeper, he was pathetic. He cost us so many goals, so many games. Quite why McGhee insisted on playing him I just don't know. He couldn't catch a ball, he couldn't command his area and he couldn't always save the simple shots. He was a liability, and the reason we finished 24th in the Champ, so what happens next season? He's handed the #1 shirt ahead of the best goalkeeper this club has had in my time as a fan. It wasn't easy for him, I'll admit, competing with a legend, he had to win the fans over early on. But he didn't do it because he was frail and he was dodgy, and he was an awful keeper in my opinion. I was at Bournemouth.... :laugh: Idiot.

That said, he was a magician in the Palace game.
 




Knotty

Well-known member
Feb 5, 2004
2,421
Canterbury
Us not liking him had nothing to do with being Irish, what a rubbish theory that is. I can't believe how many people thought he was a good keeper, he was pathetic. He cost us so many goals, so many games. Quite why McGhee insisted on playing him I just don't know. He couldn't catch a ball, he couldn't command his area and he couldn't always save the simple shots. He was a liability, and the reason we finished 24th in the Champ, so what happens next season? He's handed the #1 shirt ahead of the best goalkeeper this club has had in my time as a fan. It wasn't easy for him, I'll admit, competing with a legend, he had to win the fans over early on. But he didn't do it because he was frail and he was dodgy, and he was an awful keeper in my opinion. I was at Bournemouth.... :laugh: Idiot.

That said, he was a magician in the Palace game.

I think you are being OTT about both of them. They were just about on a par for me and, although I slightly preferred FDM, I was happy whoever was playing.

I doubt either of them cost us more games than the other.
 


Ninja Elephant

Doctor Elephant
Feb 16, 2009
18,855
I'm sorry, but what a load of rubbish. Michel is vastly superior, I can't believe there's even a question about it! Would Michel have been stuffed 5 times by Stoke? I thoroughly doubt it. Would Michel have pissed about with a simple long ball in the last minute of a derby? I thoroughly doubt it. Would Michel have been lobbed from the half way line? I thoroughly doubt that too...
 


JJ McClure

Go Jags
Jul 7, 2003
11,113
Hassocks
Would Michel have raced out of his area missed the ball and clatered Adam Virgo allowing the opposition to score......oh
 






chez

Johnny Byrne-The Greatest
Jul 5, 2003
10,042
Wherever The Mood Takes Me
Hi Folks

Grimsby fan here. We've just signed Wayne Henderson on a month's loan who I believe was your #1 for a couple of years. We're currently in the midst of our worst period in living memory and are fighting for our lives to stay in the football league, so was wondering if the guy is any good?

We need a decent shot-stopper (because frankly, there'll be a couple of hundred shots to stop each game) and someone who can command the area (because our current 'keeper is a 6ft 4", 16 stone, arm-flapping mincer with an apparent mortal fear of venturing more than 6 inches off his line).

Good luck with your own relegation battle - it's grim in League Two!

He is a brilliant keeper, we were lucky to have him. He's been injured for ages which is why he is dropping to League 2 for a while. Wayne will be a top premiership keeper so make the most of him while you can.
 




Guy Fawkes

The voice of treason
Sep 29, 2007
8,300
He can't hold onto decent shots and has a habbit of parrying the ball out into dangerous areas.His throwing and kicking is top notch.I reckon he will do very well in league 2 for you.

I agree with this, also he was very slow to react to any ball played into space between the defense and the goal, he dithered and by the time he made his mind up it was too late. usually he would have been favorite to get there first, but the dithering meant that often he was caught out in no mans land and we ended up conceeding.

Hopefully for you, he may have improved in these areas with the extra experience he has gained.
 


Acker79

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Nov 15, 2008
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Brighton
I never took to him.

My problem wasn't that he kept Kuipers out of the team, I think kuipers has not been as good as he used to be, and if we find someone better than kuipers I won't cling to him.

My issue with Henderson was probably more related to McGhee. I don't rate Mark McGhee and the fact he kept picking Henderson regardless of his mistakes just made me dislike him more.

Henderson would make a mistake, come out and hold his hands up to it and apologise for it, then go and repeat that very same mistake. I don't mind people making mistakes, if they learn from them.

I also remember a game against southampton where they crossed the ball and it slowly trickled a not very fast pace along the six yard line, no southampton players in the box, and henderon dived down and parried the ball against McShane giving an own goal. We were holding out against a good southampton team, frustrating them with most people suggesting if we held them til half time we could get something. But thanks to Henderson's unnecessary panicking dive we didn't.

The following home game was a must win to have any realistic chance of surviving and the same thing happened. Sheffield wednesday trickled the ball into the unoccupied area, henderson dived needlessly and parried the ball against gary hart.

I also see him as the reason we went down. I know that's controversial, but other than those two games, his mistakes cost us points against several clubs including Plymouth and Crewe away. There were other games I used to cite back then, that without his mistakes would have given us the points we needed to get to safety, but it's been too long to remember them all now.


As for the accusation that fans were simply upset that Henderson replaced kuipers, here's their stats as of May 6th 2007 for that season:

Kuipers
Played: 19 ... won 9 ... lost 6 ... drawn 4 ...... win rate: 47.37%

Henderson
Played: 25 ... won 9 ... lost 13 ... drawn 3 ...... win rate: 36% (Goes up to 40% if you include the millwall penalty shoot out as a win instead of a draw)

(We also had flinders:
Flinders
Played: 12 ... won 2 ... lost 6 ... drawn 4 ...... win rate: 16.67%)

There was also the issue that Kuipers got dropped after one mistake, Henderson could make game-costing mistake after game-costing mistake and McGhee just wouldn't drop him.
 
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BensGrandad

New member
Jul 13, 2003
72,015
Haywards Heath
I suggest you look at the video again. He didn't bundle Virgo out of the way at all. If FDM had carried on he would simply have kicked Virgo. As it was Virgo slightly brushed the ball as he was uncertain as to what FDM was going to do and FDM pulled out of the kick, presumably for the same reason.

To confidently apportion blame, you'd have to know who called what, but without that knowledge you'd have to blame both of them.


Having watched the video many times I am convinced that had Kuipers not interrupted, Virgo would have put the ball in row z but was knocked out of his stride by Kuipers rushing out as to who called what, who knows only those 2 as there has been conflicting reports on here by people in the know. Some said Kuipers called for it some say he didnt.

The whole point is nether Kuipers or Sullivan yet, is as good as Henderson was.
 




Elder for England

New member
Jan 30, 2008
2,388
The trouble is, talent often doesn't come into it with Albion fans, if they favour one, they'll dislike the other and proof of this are Bens Grandad and Complete Badger. As much as I like Kuipers, I could also appreciate that Henderson was a good kepper too, we were lucky to have them both.

As for the Bournemouth game, when he made that mistake the fans were a disgrace. He even made an attempt to come over and appologise to the fans, only to be greeted with more boos and abuse. He made a mistake, we all do, and he was completely vilified. Moments like that really do show some people for what they are, and there's a word for people like that, arseholes.
 


Barrel of Fun

Abort, retry, fail
Henderson would show flashes of brilliance and then make some very basic errors. He was effectively a young and inexperienced keeper, a superb athlete, with the potential to go onto better things. Sadly it seems that his back injury has put paid to that for the time being.
 


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