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[Albion] Was it a red?

You're the ref - what do you give?

  • Nothing

  • A foul

  • A yellow card

  • A red card


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Herr Tubthumper

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It is a red, but it's also the kind of challenge we've seen players get away with numerous times this season. If the ref didn't give it on the field, I'm not totally convinced VAR would have intervened. Doucoure's theatrics (and no doubt Dyche's screeching) certainly influenced the refs decision.
The commentary I listened to said VAR confirmed it was a red. I’m not sure what this actually means but this is what was said
 










AstroSloth

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Dec 29, 2020
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He caught the Everton player above his ankle, which makes it a nasty foul. Unintentional but still dangerous.
But he's also gone in more side footed than anything you see given a red these days.

If it was studs first then sure, red card.

But he's basically tried to play a pass and side footed him, never a red.
 






AstroSloth

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People saying this was a red, do you also think that Beto stepping on Van Hecke should have been a red when he got a yellow?

Studs first and high on his leg so must be a red right?
 






Gabbafella

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Stonewall red. No argument from me.
 


BadFish

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Oct 19, 2003
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MOTD agree Maguires was not a red. We await the verdict on Wee Billy
What was their reasons for it not being a red? Surely it was so similar to billy's?
 


Eeyore

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I'm convinced that if one of our players did a Schumacher kung fu kick on an opposition player 20% of NSC would say it was barely a yellow.
 






Eeyore

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What was their reasons for it not being a red? Surely it was so similar to billy's?
Point of contact was in a grey area. What is now a sore grey area. I think a yellow, just.
 


Herr Tubthumper

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It means that the VAR ref didn't think the on-field ref had made a clear and obvious error.
I wasn’t aware they confirmed on-field decisions though i.e. I thought they only piped up/intervened when they needed to.
 




Herr Tubthumper

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As an aside Gilmour was frustrating when he was on the pitch, often just tapped the ball back to Dunk or JPVH which he did a lot of at the start of the season.
 


BadFish

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Sarisbury Seagull

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It's a red card. Anyone trying to argue otherwise is mental.
This. I’m actually amazed some are saying it wasn’t, I wasn’t expecting that at all even though some fans will always see things through blue and white specs.

He doesn’t mean to hurt him but that doesn’t make any difference at all, it is a bit of a shocker and a stonewall red.
 






Happy Exile

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Just as an aside the geek in me likes seeing all the "stonewall". We all know what it means but it doesn't really make sense in the context of "a certain decision". Though it's become accepted to mean this it seems to be credited in some places to an angry Alex Ferguson getting his words mixed up and meaning to say an act of obstruction was "stone-cold certain" and coming out instead with "stonewall" (which of course means hindering/obstructive behaviour). Funny that it got copied rather than ignored or mocked and has just become part of how fans and commentators talk now.
 


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