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Voting BNP
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Man of Harveys
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Exactly.Chesney Christ said:
It's sadly just one of the oldest, most mind-numbingly tedious, most stupid and most damaging games to play in the book: if something's wrong, rather than tackle it, blame it all on THEM.
The role of THEM can either by played by people who are slightly different to you or THEM who live on the other side of the hill or the water. The Nazis did it with the Jews, the press does it with immigrants now (this morning, in fact) and people still believe it. In fact, some of the very same papers tried to turn their readership against Jewish immigrants fleeing the build-up to the Holocaust prior to WW2. You can bet the NSC BNP contingent - who admit they'd support Hitler - would be up in arms about this immigration were it to happen now.
Ignore the fact that it's been proven time and again that cheap, flexible labour from immigration is a vital component of a country's economy - blame THEM.
But, sadly, it goes back further than that and carries on to this day. Because there are plenty out there with no perspective and who are too stupid to question it.
Man of Harveys
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I've no better idea than you have but, given that the BNP is playing exactly the same game that the Nazis did (except they had the "advantage" of desperate economic hardship) it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest. Blame the foreigners - they're different, you can't trust them and they're after your money. It was Der Stuermer in the 1930s and it's the Daily Express about Romanians this morning, IMHO.Commander said:
Gully
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Sadly you hit the nail on the head, Hitler was a great orator, he motivated a nation largely full of people with no perspective and who were willing to follow him almost without question. Germany was suffering badly because of the depression in the 30's, he had something to blame it on in the Jews and set about exacting revenge.
What I keep asking myself when reflecting on the history of Nazi Germany is why people didn't stop and think when sending naked women and children into the gas chambers, these were indeed fellow humans, that they might be doing something wrong.
What I keep asking myself when reflecting on the history of Nazi Germany is why people didn't stop and think when sending naked women and children into the gas chambers, these were indeed fellow humans, that they might be doing something wrong.
Wise words. The time to worry is when they actually start making proper gains *after* the electorate have heard all the arguments. Until then, it's just the whinging masses having a moan about everything and anything, despite the fact that the country is in excellent shape economically.HampshireSeagulls said:
Man of Harveys said:
But if you have no better idea than me, then why did you say?
Man of Harveys said:
Part of the problem is there seems to be no middle ground with anyone anymore. I think immigration is definitely a problem at the moment, but that doesn't make me a racist, and I would never vote BNP. Yet certain people on here would have me down as a Nazi just because I don't think we should open all our doors and let anyone in.
The fact remains that 1 in 4 people on here say they would vote for the BNP. And you don't find that a tad worrying?
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Man of Harveys
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Because, in my opinion, they're saying the same thing, as I wrote.Commander said:
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Oceanic said:
Won't most people be smiling at the general elations?
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Commander said:
Oceanic said:
Uncle Buck
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Dandyman said:
They are out annexing Kent?
Hannibal smith
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Immigration is fantastic. On Sunday morning, the fittest Eastern European waitress served us for brekkie in our hotel in Carlisle. This more than made up for the fact the food was crap and my horrible stinking hangover.
Last Thursday I was dribbling over another serving my Pizza in Stevenage. Anyone that wants to ban immigration is stark raving bonkers. But we knew that about the BNP supporters anyway.
Last Thursday I was dribbling over another serving my Pizza in Stevenage. Anyone that wants to ban immigration is stark raving bonkers. But we knew that about the BNP supporters anyway.
sten_super
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I think his point was that voting BNP is the same as voting Nazi - and while that's a slight exageration, he's broadly correct as I see it.
The problem is, the BNP play on problems in specific areas, and make promises that they could never keep. Whether it is removing all non-whites, or giving money away to all and sundry who 'need' it, they don't have to balance the books and explain how they would do it, because they will never be in a position where they will have to do it. So they can say 'we'd do this' and 'we'd do that' without ever having to worry about the how, and therefore they can get votes for people who have specific concerns that they want addressed.
Oh, and yes, I do find it rather disturbing that apparently 1/4 of people who voted would vote BNP. Very disturbing, in fact.
The problem is, the BNP play on problems in specific areas, and make promises that they could never keep. Whether it is removing all non-whites, or giving money away to all and sundry who 'need' it, they don't have to balance the books and explain how they would do it, because they will never be in a position where they will have to do it. So they can say 'we'd do this' and 'we'd do that' without ever having to worry about the how, and therefore they can get votes for people who have specific concerns that they want addressed.
Oh, and yes, I do find it rather disturbing that apparently 1/4 of people who voted would vote BNP. Very disturbing, in fact.
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Oceanic said:
Not exactly how you have made it look, is it?
And anyway, I saw that at the start, but I'm sure Oceanic does not speak for the 22 people who have voted for the BNP on her. I seriously hope not anyway.
Do not misunderstand me, I am in no way defending Oceanic, and I would never ever vote BNP, but you cannot deny that there is a major problem here.
HampshireSeagulls
Moulding Generation Z
Can the mods not see who has voted yes, and stick their names up? It would be interesting to see which part of the gene pool they crawled out of - or whether some people have more than one account!
It's on a par with the Sun calling for a ban on "devil dogs" - when most of their readers can be seen walking their own "devil dogs" around the sink estates of the UK. The media don't have an agenda - they have every agenda, as long as it sells papers. Blaming stuff on immigrants, pikeys, etc, is an easy option, and groups your readership behind you - and your readership hasn't got to be intelligent enough to actually understand the bigger picture. The BNP taps into this "mob mentality", but at the end of the day, people need a little more substance than Nick Griffin with some tape over his mouth.
It's on a par with the Sun calling for a ban on "devil dogs" - when most of their readers can be seen walking their own "devil dogs" around the sink estates of the UK. The media don't have an agenda - they have every agenda, as long as it sells papers. Blaming stuff on immigrants, pikeys, etc, is an easy option, and groups your readership behind you - and your readership hasn't got to be intelligent enough to actually understand the bigger picture. The BNP taps into this "mob mentality", but at the end of the day, people need a little more substance than Nick Griffin with some tape over his mouth.