1066familyman
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- Jan 15, 2008
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No it wasn't.
The pineapple head thing was directed solely at Jason Lee, on account of his hair style. He later revealed how much that upset him.
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[Football] Victor Osimhen
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The pineapple head thing was directed solely at Jason Lee, on account of his hair style. He later revealed how much that upset him.
BluesRockDJ
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- Jan 24, 2020
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I beg to differ !
BluesRockDJ
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- Jan 24, 2020
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I see you joined in 2008.................go back a couple of decades !
1066familyman
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- Jan 15, 2008
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As is your right. I stand by what I originally said.
We'll agree to disagree then.
You are correct
Who was that chanted directed at before Jason Lee? It was popularised on Fantasy Football by David Baddiel, who used to black up to specifically mock Jason Lee. Of course that transferred to the terraces.
herecomesaregular
We're in the pipe, 5 by 5
Is this character also based on Mick Fleetwood?
Weststander
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You’re spot on. Baddiel and Skinner 90’s humour, later regretted when JL revealed the effect.
Worst. Non-apology. Ever.
BadFish
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- Oct 19, 2003
- 18,194
That is a shit apology, I wonder if the one they do face to face is any better.
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Isn't it? Why not just say "we try to post humorous content on our Tiktok but we misjudged this one. We have apologised to the player and we'll learn from this." Easy.
Horses Arse
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Not sure sepulveda will have the best take on this.
Or maybe I'm being unfair and its just that Italy as a nation are in the same time zone as Burnley.
Not a good country to be in if black from what we learn from football.
Horses Arse
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Mainly upset due to a TV show that broadcast it and mocked his performances continually rather than fans at games I believe.
5Ways Gull
È quello che è
Didn't Moises Keane suffer similar issues at Juve? Think he came on loan to Everton.
schmunk
Why oh why oh why?
...as if he hadn't suffered enough humiliation already.
BadFish
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- Oct 19, 2003
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I am wondering if this is all a bit storm in a tea cup. The coconut stuff looks terrible but in the context of the twitter 'craze' thing it is explainable.
Having a light dig about missing a penalty may not be great but surely if in a good place that can be laughed off?
Seems like agent and player a possibly using all this to secure a lucrative move.
Such a shit apology really hasn't helped Napoli's cause.
Having a light dig about missing a penalty may not be great but surely if in a good place that can be laughed off?
Seems like agent and player a possibly using all this to secure a lucrative move.
Such a shit apology really hasn't helped Napoli's cause.
Just my opinion here...
Racism is complex. People who've experienced it all their lives may have been deeply affected and recognise it where 'onlookers' might not. It might seem something we (I'm white) could laugh off or explain away, having never been on the end of it, but still might be deeply hurtful to them, and compound ingrained hurt from the past.
Even if something wasn't "intended" as racist they may still perceive it that way, if it's been almost programmed into them to expect it. I don't mean by this that they are being over-sensitive about it or that it's somehow their fault because they're offended where I might not be. It's not. What I mean is because of this, there's a reasonable onus on all of us to take that extra second to think, not about how we would feel in a situation, but about how the person on the end of it might. It's not being woke (I hate that word), it's just being empathetic.
It shouldn't be too hard to recognise that someone who is black (or any minority ethnicity) may have had different life experiences and need a bit of extra thought about what you say, how you say it, and how it might make them feel. In the same way you might give extra thought to your interactions with someone with a disability or any other protected characteristic. I don't think that's too much to ask. And especially not from someone posting in an official capacity.
And if you do offend someone, even inadvertently, you need to hold your hands up and say sorry. Not "we didn't mean it". Not "sorry *you* took offence" (not that Napoli even said that), but sorry *we* caused offence. Own it, correct it, try to do better.
Anyway that's my thoughts, not aimed at anyone on here, just putting it out. Not everyone will see it that way, whatever.
I'll go back to being stupidly over-excited about Marseille and Ajax now.
Racism is complex. People who've experienced it all their lives may have been deeply affected and recognise it where 'onlookers' might not. It might seem something we (I'm white) could laugh off or explain away, having never been on the end of it, but still might be deeply hurtful to them, and compound ingrained hurt from the past.
Even if something wasn't "intended" as racist they may still perceive it that way, if it's been almost programmed into them to expect it. I don't mean by this that they are being over-sensitive about it or that it's somehow their fault because they're offended where I might not be. It's not. What I mean is because of this, there's a reasonable onus on all of us to take that extra second to think, not about how we would feel in a situation, but about how the person on the end of it might. It's not being woke (I hate that word), it's just being empathetic.
It shouldn't be too hard to recognise that someone who is black (or any minority ethnicity) may have had different life experiences and need a bit of extra thought about what you say, how you say it, and how it might make them feel. In the same way you might give extra thought to your interactions with someone with a disability or any other protected characteristic. I don't think that's too much to ask. And especially not from someone posting in an official capacity.
And if you do offend someone, even inadvertently, you need to hold your hands up and say sorry. Not "we didn't mean it". Not "sorry *you* took offence" (not that Napoli even said that), but sorry *we* caused offence. Own it, correct it, try to do better.
Anyway that's my thoughts, not aimed at anyone on here, just putting it out. Not everyone will see it that way, whatever.
I'll go back to being stupidly over-excited about Marseille and Ajax now.
Insel affe
HellBilly
It's a form of expression we had to use for Tik Tok
They can't even say sorry properly with trying to deflect some of the blame.
shameful attempt at an apology.