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if your previous post was meant to be purely on belfast and not the politics of it, then don't make judgmental statements about loyalists .you didn't say that there were obnoxious people on both sides at all, you made a clear statement about loyalism and implied that there are 'probably' obnoxious people in republican bars, jolly old lovable rogue freedom fighters that they are,as for spending time in northern ireland and finding out for myself ?I've spent far too long there and seen 'republicans' for what they really are , not the sanitised propaganda put on show for the media and gullible american tourists or people like yourself, to ever want to go back.Why don't you pay the place a visit?
If you read properly you'll find I stated there were obnoxious people on both sides. If you actually knew anything about the REALITY of the place you might not be quite so opinionated. Some people on both sides aren't moving on but I was pointing out a specific group who make me chuckle with their steadfast refusal to move on & even join the 21st century. My politics are my own & I'll keep them to myself. I couldn't care less about what you think you "know" of the conditions in Belfast & the rights & wrongs of the past or present day but I'm willing to bet you don't know much at all otherwise you'd know that the incidents you refer to are not the only incidents that have or do occur even today in Northern Ireland. There are more incidents involving Loyalists than you might realise. But anyway this is a football forum & my previous post was my opinion on Belfast not on the politics of it all.