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[Football] United charged by FA after Dunk red



Weststander

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Aug 25, 2011
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charged with failing to control their players for their antics after the Dunk yellow that was turned to a red.

absolutely despise the way big teams, especially united, surround the ref to put him under pressure to make the call they want, especially when you have a p** weak referee like we did last night. yes, every team does it, but, as shown by the charge, united take it to an entirely new level of twattishness, especially that little rat fernandes.

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glad to see the charge, but sure it will do absolutely nothing to change the behaviour

Not just a big 6 thing. Palarse target officials with a posse of t@ssers when there’s a perceived injustice.
 






studio150

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Jul 30, 2011
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Won't lose points, only get fined... so why would a club like Utd NOT do this. Spend £50k to get an opponent sent off? Absolute f**king bargain.

Utterly pointless action by the FA. Either the Ref books all the players crowding him except the Captains... or the FA over turn a result or dock points. The Refs don't have the backbone and the FA certainly don't (or indeed even have the power?) so waste of everyone's time.

Should be retrospective yellows to all the United players who crowded around the ref if not yellows on the day
 


GT49er

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Won't lose points, only get fined... so why would a club like Utd NOT do this. Spend £50k to get an opponent sent off? Absolute f**king bargain.

Utterly pointless action by the FA. Either the Ref books all the players crowding him except the Captains... or the FA over turn a result or dock points. The Refs don't have the backbone and the FA certainly don't (or indeed even have the power?) so waste of everyone's time.

Genuine question - can they hand out retrospective red cards for violent conduct?
 






A1X

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kevo

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BNthree

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Also, if a player goes down and rolls around hurt, and gets treatment, he goes off to recover for 10 minutes.
(Unless as a result of a foul).

Interesting article in The Athletic today saying Southampton seem to very regularly have players needing the physio between 60 and 70 minutes in matches. Then all the other Saints players go straight over to the dug outs to get gels and listen to the coaches advice. Pretty much impossible to prove anything unless they put a poster up in the changing room telling the players to do it but this suggestion would be ideal, even if the player is out of the match for just 5 minutes it would cut it all down.
 






Lindfield by the Pond

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The problem is that the refs are too weak.

There have been initiatives to try to stop this behaviour such as free kicks advanced 10 metres if there is any dissent as in Rugby, but the refs bottled it and stopped doing it.

If they really want to stop this behaviour, you are right. Yellow to every one of the players around the ref except the captain.
If they do it again in the match, second yellow and a red.
Also, if a player goes down and rolls around hurt, and gets treatment, he goes off to recover for 10 minutes.
(Unless as a result of a foul).
Feigning injury such as clutching their face when the contact was nowhere near that, 10 minutes sin bin.
And a week training with a Rugby team to find out what contact really means!

If we get VAR intruding into the game, as happened last night, when it was not 100% clear error, then why not use the citing process as is used in Rugby where a team can cite a player for foul play which the ref missed and it's reviewed and can sometimes result in several weeks ban?

Will never happen though.

Rant over :)

Agreed. It's all of the above if the football authorities really want to stop it. The fact they don't doesn't just imply, it makes them complicit.
 








PILTDOWN MAN

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The ref bottled it. Should have sent one off, then the next and so on.

When one ref does it, it will stop overnight.
 


raymondo

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The problem is that the refs are too weak.

There have been initiatives to try to stop this behaviour such as free kicks advanced 10 metres if there is any dissent as in Rugby, but the refs bottled it and stopped doing it.

If they really want to stop this behaviour, you are right. Yellow to every one of the players around the ref except the captain.
If they do it again in the match, second yellow and a red.
Also, if a player goes down and rolls around hurt, and gets treatment, he goes off to recover for 10 minutes.
(Unless as a result of a foul).
Feigning injury such as clutching their face when the contact was nowhere near that, 10 minutes sin bin.
And a week training with a Rugby team to find out what contact really means!

If we get VAR intruding into the game, as happened last night, when it was not 100% clear error, then why not use the citing process as is used in Rugby where a team can cite a player for foul play which the ref missed and it's reviewed and can sometimes result in several weeks ban?

Will never happen though.

Rant over :)
It was a very good rant !!
 




Easy 10

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https://www.redcafe.net/threads/off...n-an-orderly-fashion-against-brighton.468932/

The verdict on the Surrey Reds forum - EVERYBODY does it, so the FA are just targeting Utd because its an agenda.

"I was actually delighted to see the team surrounding the referee. Everyone else does it. Why do we have to be the only choirboys in the league? Took me back years to the days of Keane, Ince, Hughes etc. Back then we'd never let a referee get away with a s#!+ decision. At least the lads stood up for themselves."

Great fans
 


macbeth

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Jan 3, 2018
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The ref bottled it. Should have sent one off, then the next and so on.

When one ref does it, it will stop overnight.

it comes from the top though. refs don't do this as they feel they have no guidance or support from the disastrous leadership at the pgmol. take this video, for example, anthony taylor, one of our best refs, would probably never do this in the prem, and yet takes a no nonsense approach when reffing in europe. you have to ask why


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kevo

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Mar 8, 2008
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https://www.redcafe.net/threads/off...n-an-orderly-fashion-against-brighton.468932/

The verdict on the Surrey Reds forum - EVERYBODY does it, so the FA are just targeting Utd because its an agenda.

"I was actually delighted to see the team surrounding the referee. Everyone else does it. Why do we have to be the only choirboys in the league? Took me back years to the days of Keane, Ince, Hughes etc. Back then we'd never let a referee get away with a s#!+ decision. At least the lads stood up for themselves."

Great fans

Was just thinking it's actually something we rarely do. Just shows a lack of class from their lot.
 


Albion my Albion

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The problem is that the refs are too weak.

There have been initiatives to try to stop this behaviour such as free kicks advanced 10 metres if there is any dissent as in Rugby, but the refs bottled it and stopped doing it.

If they really want to stop this behaviour, you are right. Yellow to every one of the players around the ref except the captain.
If they do it again in the match, second yellow and a red.
Also, if a player goes down and rolls around hurt, and gets treatment, he goes off to recover for 10 minutes.
(Unless as a result of a foul).
Feigning injury such as clutching their face when the contact was nowhere near that, 10 minutes sin bin.
And a week training with a Rugby team to find out what contact really means!

If we get VAR intruding into the game, as happened last night, when it was not 100% clear error, then why not use the citing process as is used in Rugby where a team can cite a player for foul play which the ref missed and it's reviewed and can sometimes result in several weeks ban?

Will never happen though.

Rant over :)


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Change at Barnham

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Aug 6, 2011
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Manchester United have become a very dislikable side, especially the likes Fernandes and McTominey.
As a team they are currently miles away from the quality of City or Liverpool.
They must be seriously worried about Newcastle knocking them further down the pecking order in a few seasons time.

Their arrogance and entitlement will mean they remain in their rivals shadows for a while yet.
 


MTSeagulls

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Sep 18, 2019
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Interesting article in The Athletic today saying Southampton seem to very regularly have players needing the physio between 60 and 70 minutes in matches. Then all the other Saints players go straight over to the dug outs to get gels and listen to the coaches advice. Pretty much impossible to prove anything unless they put a poster up in the changing room telling the players to do it but this suggestion would be ideal, even if the player is out of the match for just 5 minutes it would cut it all down.
Newcastle did it under Bruce too. Goalkeeper goes down with mystery injury so ref has to stop the game. All other players go to the technical area.
 


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