Hampster Gull
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UK net migration hits record high
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sir albion
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O dear o dear
Thankfully the vast vast amount of different races and religions here don't want to kill us, best we concentrate on those that do.
Wrong-Direction
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Its inevitable something will happen over here again in the future whether we take people in or not.
Alternative 1. Let the rest of Europe deal with it (making us look selfish?
Alternative 2. Send them all back to face their fate (making us look selfish)
Alternative 1. Let the rest of Europe deal with it (making us look selfish?
Alternative 2. Send them all back to face their fate (making us look selfish)
daveybgtt
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I think this image sums up nicely the 2 sides of the argument. Which one are you?
AlastairWatts
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Wasn't that her boss, the awful wining Australian woman, not crazy Caroline? Not that it matters, of course: given her and her party's success generally quite possibly they have trouble with numbers over twenty...
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Which murderers?
As I understand it you saying the 2 murderers who beheaded Lee Rigby are no different from any other murderers?
Feel free to correct me if I have that wrong.........
Hastings gull
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Not really you at your best, is it?
BadFish
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The main point seems to be that he shouldn't feel guilty or do anything about the situation because people didn't give a shit before they saw this picture.
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I guess its more likely to be inevitable if we take in thousands of people that we have no understanding about their background.
In contrast it's less likely if you don't take in anyone.
I would further argue that any national Govt's primary responsibility is always to protect its citizens' from harm and always act in their interests first and foremost.
That is my minimum expectation...........nothing selfish about that in my view, I couldn't care less what the Germans think.
BadFish
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That's good of you.
Hampster Gull
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I don't think so, one of the most grating aspects of Bellotti was his arrogance, and not least what many BHA felt about the direction of the club didn't matter. His comment about BHA fans to "stop whining" (after Bournemouth away I think) summed this up.
He knew best, we all just had to lump it.
Your comments that this country is rich is inaccurate and patronising for many millions of people who are evidently not as well off as you appear to be. I don't doubt that the poor in this country are not stricken as poor elsewhere but that is not the point.
This is the point, the people who will have to compete for resources with the newcomers are the poor, not the rich who couldn't care less about this reality. Or put another way, the poor and powerless in this country will just have to lump it because that's what some rich (and more powerful) people want.
Which does brings us back to Bellotti and his attitude.............
5mins-from-amex
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Over 4 million votes is no protest vote you dickhead.
daveinprague
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Over 4 milllion now? The figure increases with time then? Thats handy!
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KZNSeagull
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And that is you at your best? I will rephrase the question for you:
As the UK will be taking refugees from existing refugee camps and will be concentrating on taking orphaned and vulnerable children, the disabled and the elderly, no doubt security vetting them as they go instead of taking anyone who turns up, by how much, if at all, will this increase the risk of "importing unknown Syrians from an ISIS war zone" who will make "our own home grown jihadists" look like "amateurs in comparison"? And yes, I do know that they are not your words, but as you decided to criticise my debating skills in asking my original question, perhaps you would like to give me a reasoned, sensible answer?
My own view, as you may well have guessed, is that by taking refugees this way the risks are minimised and that the onus is on the UK's vetting procedures to wheedle out any threats.
If the security forces and those in other countries were unable to stop many worldwide atrocities, why would you then conclude that any increased risk would not somehow be converted into a greater probability of an attack actually happening ?
This year the head of M15 said that 'we cannot stop every UK terror threat' and that the UK was facing 'more complex and ambitious plots', I am sure there is much concern by the security services with the influx of 100 000's unknown Syrians within the Europe, it would be madness not to even acknowledge the threat.
But it seems you and others have a blindspot to anything other than fully accepting an undetermined amount of refugees without much thought to its consequence.
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Anyone see the Newsnight last night. Only half the people claiming asylum in Germany are from Syria, it's no surprise really we could have seen that coming, then on the local news they where speaking migrants at Calais. Some said we don't need food, we don't need clothes their old, all we want is for the borders to open. They also showed a pile of clothes donated by people up in flames.