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[LlcoolJ]

I once discussed health care in the Intel Fab in Hillsboro Oregon (it was a very boring day) with a guy out of MIT. He was led to believe that we paid 25-30% of our salary in health tax. When I pointed out that it was 12% plus a bit from ‘normal tax’, he proceeded to be really pissed off. We were all in clean room attire and so I could only see his eyes. They were the eyes of a man who was considering a new career as a serial killer and I was to be his first victim.

Getting a job in the US is relatively easy, getting a job with health care that matches the NHS, is another matter entirely.


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Exactly. Even the well educated have been force fed this lie their entire lives. I guess finding out the truth is a very bitter pill to swallow......

 

[Westdene Seagull]

Disillusioned or realisation about his old party ?

Have to say that is one of the most powerful political ( or even non-political maybe ) speeches I've seen in quite some time. Yet he's not allowed run as President .... madness.

 

[Jim in the West]

Exactly. Even the well educated have been force fed this lie their entire lives. I guess finding out the truth is a very bitter pill to swallow......

The funny thing is, it's very easy to compare the cost of healthcare across the world. In the UK it's around £3k per person, pa. In the US it's about £8k per person. Obviously in the US it's predominantly insurance-based....maybe US citizens are happier to pay for insurance (if they can afford it [and even if it's available through their employer, they're still paying for it])

 

[Deportivo Seagull]

Exactly. Even the well educated have been force fed this lie their entire lives. I guess finding out the truth is a very bitter pill to swallow......

He was more pissed off with me telling him rather than the line he had been fed. The fact the he was my Customer and I was there to fix an issue didn’t make things any easier.

The other funny thing was that when I whinged about the price you see in shops is exclusive of tax. He couldn’t it understand why until I told him the price you see in the uk, is the price you pay as it has tax included. It then dawned on him that this was by far the most the most sensible thing to do. I responded along the lines of ‘ it would be great if it was introduced here then’, to which he replied ‘I don’t think so, it’s a bit out there’......


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[LlcoolJ]

The funny thing is, it's very easy to compare the cost of healthcare across the world. In the UK it's around £3k per person, pa. In the US it's about £8k per person. Obviously in the US it's predominantly insurance-based....maybe US citizens are happier to pay for insurance (if they can afford it [and even if it's available through their employer, they're still paying for it])

It easy to compare. A five second google gives you this for starters.......

 

[Lyndhurst 14]

I once discussed health care in the Intel Fab in Hillsboro Oregon (it was a very boring day) with a guy out of MIT. He was led to believe that we paid 25-30% of our salary in health tax. When I pointed out that it was 12% plus a bit from ‘normal tax’, he proceeded to be really pissed off. We were all in clean room attire and so I could only see his eyes. They were the eyes of a man who was considering a new career as a serial killer and I was to be his first victim.

Getting a job in the US is relatively easy, getting a job with health care that matches the NHS, is another matter entirely.


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One of the problems with the US healthcare system is the add ons. Although you are covered by your company you always have co-pays. This can range from $50 when you see your doctor or specialist consultant to up to $300 if you need to go to the ER for immediate assistance. Then you have the out of network which is when a doctor or hospital does not recognise your insurance company. My company has to renegotiate the deal with the insurers every year and this sometimes means having to use another company for a better deal. Then you may suddenly find that your dentist of 5 years no longer accepts your new company so you have to change the dentist. And of course when a person loses their job they lose their company medical insurance. They can extend this using COBRA but this comes at a cost. The whole US medical system has been exposed during the Covid pandemic and it really is long overdue a complete overhaul.

 

[vegster]

It's starting to feel like that last dark days of another failed despot, Trump holed up in his bunker, former friends and colleagues turning on him, even the PGA golf Championship have dumped him..... 9 days and counting

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

The funny thing is, it's very easy to compare the cost of healthcare across the world. In the UK it's around £3k per person, pa. In the US it's about £8k per person. Obviously in the US it's predominantly insurance-based....maybe US citizens are happier to pay for insurance (if they can afford it [and even if it's available through their employer, they're still paying for it])

I don’t think the problem over there is so much that it is insurance funded more that it is optional. This encourages opt out. Switzerland and Germany have excellent insurance funded compulsory healthcare systems.

 

[LlcoolJ]

I don’t think the problem over there is so much that it is insurance funded more that it is optional. This encourages opt out. Switzerland and Germany have excellent insurance funded compulsory healthcare systems.

But that wouldn't work in America as a lot of people would see at communism.

 

[Tom Bombadil]

Edited because i realised I was doing the posters work for him by reacting.

 

[Acker79]

A lot of Trump's more fervant supporters have in the past been pushing people to use Parler as an alternative to Twitter. They're all over twitter all the time telling everyone on twitter how great parler is. In the wake of Parler being dropped from the google play store and apple app store, it transpires there has been a 'hack' of parler and lots of personal data has been leaked (they had to provide copies of drivers licence to become super users or something). Apparently, this was how they were able to populate no fly lists so quickly.

This is the last post of a thread that went into detail on it, this post contains a link to an article covering it, too.
[tweet]1348635388080844802[/tweet]

 

[Thunder Bolt]

I don’t think the problem over there is so much that it is insurance funded more that it is optional. This encourages opt out. Switzerland and Germany have excellent insurance funded compulsory healthcare systems.

The problem with insurance funded healthcare systems is the insurance company finding exceptions. Healthcare becomes conditional on their terms and conditions.

 

[LlcoolJ]

It's very unpleasant to see our resident racist Aussie thrashing around in this thread. Hes as welcome as a turd at a bar mitzvah and roughly as enlightening as well . TB you are a busted flush, no one cares what smear videos you drag up form the cess pits of the internet. Kindly **** off back to parler

He can't.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-55598887

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...n-parler-app-trump-apple-google-b1785037.html

I've blocked him. It makes the thread so much more pleasant. There's only so much utter ****ing nonsense that I can cope with.

 

[Insel affe]

I once discussed health care in the Intel Fab in Hillsboro Oregon (it was a very boring day) with a guy out of MIT. He was led to believe that we paid 25-30% of our salary in health tax. When I pointed out that it was 12% plus a bit from ‘normal tax’, he proceeded to be really pissed off. We were all in clean room attire and so I could only see his eyes. They were the eyes of a man who was considering a new career as a serial killer and I was to be his first victim.

Getting a job in the US is relatively easy, getting a job with health care that matches the NHS, is another matter entirely.

I have had very similar conversations when over there, and i love throwing in the 21-28 paid holidays a year not to mention bank holidays we get....

You can literally see the steam coming out of their ears.....

Land of the free my arse....

 

[schmunk]

Then you have the out of network which is when a doctor or hospital does not recognise your insurance company. My company has to renegotiate the deal with the insurers every year and this sometimes means having to use another company for a better deal.

This also brings with it the stupidity of people in emergencies driving past a perfectly good hospital A&E to get to the in-network hospital which will accept their insurance coverage, or getting to the 'right' hospital but then being treated by an 'out of network' doctor, which brings thousands of dollars of fees which won't be covered by insurance.

 

[Tom Bombadil]

He can't.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-55598887

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...n-parler-app-trump-apple-google-b1785037.html

I've blocked him. It makes the thread so much more pleasant. There's only so much utter ****ing nonsense that I can cope with.

Yeah i ended up deleting taht post because it's essentially what he wants. I never understand why the horrible racist troll wasn't banned years ago.

 

[Igzilla]

Yeah i ended up deleting taht post because it's essentially what he wants. I never understand why the horrible racist troll wasn't banned years ago.

It would be in violition of my right of free speech to laugh at him.

 

[LlcoolJ]

A lot of Trump's more fervant supporters have in the past been pushing people to use Parler as an alternative to Twitter. They're all over twitter all the time telling everyone on twitter how great parler is. In the wake of Parler being dropped from the google play store and apple app store, it transpires there has been a 'hack' of parler and lots of personal data has been leaked (they had to provide copies of drivers licence to become super users or something). Apparently, this was how they were able to populate no fly lists so quickly.

This is the last post of a thread that went into detail on it, this post contains a link to an article covering it, too.
[tweet]1348635388080844802[/tweet]

That is amazing.

 

[Mellotron]

He can't.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-55598887

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...n-parler-app-trump-apple-google-b1785037.html

I've blocked him. It makes the thread so much more pleasant. There's only so much utter ****ing nonsense that I can cope with.

It’s fantastic.

Never blocked anyone before but his combination of stupidity and arrogance was just too much.

 

[Stat Brother]

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