Trump..... How did it happen ??..

[Scotchegg]

How is it nonsense ? have you ever witnessed anything like this first hand yourself and with your own eyes, if you have then you have every right to comment, if you haven't don't make up claims you know nothing about.

Several years ago i was involved in a small group known as MFE (march for England encase you haven't heard of them) and every year and once a year we would march in Brighton to celebrate St Georges day. we had to get permission first from the police which meant liaising with them. the first couple of events went off peacefully and why shouldn't they have done.. after all this was purely meant as a family day out and to celebrate our patron saint. Scotland Wales & Ireland have a celebratory day so why shouldn't we. anyway as i said the first couple of rallies went off as to be expected jolly and peaceful but the third turned out to be completely different, it turns out that ANTIFA and other left wing groups took it upon themselves to oppose us, a few scuffles broke out and the police instead of focusing their attention on them the "aggressor's" they started to get very heavy handed with us.. . now i am not saying that one or two of our's weren't flying fists about because they were but if you had of seen the type of violence being used towards us both from the police and the lefties then you would have understood why. the headlines of the evening argus the following evening read .."right wing nazi's smash up Brighton" or something to that description. it couldn't be any further from the truth. the fourth march was fast approaching and as i had said earlier we had to liaison with the police before it could go ahead, we questioned them over their heavy handedness especially towards us and the response we got back was pathetic, "we were treating both sides equally" they said. anyway the fourth march was like a battle zone, the lefties had literally thousand's out and were extremely angry as well, as soon as we left from the station down Queens road.we were being attacked from both sides of the street, smoke bombs bottles coins you name it came flying towards us... again the police used the exact same tactics as before, giving the lefties a free reign to attack us with endless amounts of missiles. a 9 year old girl got struck in the eye by a bottle. for everyone's safety the march was eventually diverted. the headlines of the evening argus the following evening read as similar as before, that we were the trouble makers. shortly before march five and after a long session of heated exchanged words between us and the police we were all given a formal apology from the chief of sussex police himself. two more marches later and we called the whole thing off for good. it was getting ridiculous. . .

I know full well the antifa and have seen it first hand. I wrote in my post about my time dabbling with the anti-fash, it was bang on those marches. let's just say there's two sides to every story eh. I stopped marching with the antifa because I didn't like the violent element that was just there looking for a fight and nothing else. Until orgs like mfe get rid of the same element on their marches, it's always going to end the same. I don't mind you calling out the left or the antifa, I've seen it, I don't agree with it. But let's not act all innocent like the right are all buttercups and peaches. They've got a long precedent and it was more than a few fists. there's also pretty hard evidence that mixed in with mfe was NF, EDL and the more loosely affiliated right wingers like the P&M, NA etc. and that was always the mfe problem in my eyes after those first two years. Tommy Robinson said the same thing himself, he might not have had anything to do with mfe, but edl were certainly heavily represented and he has said on numerous occasions that until the right disown the violent hate groups (you can't throw a seig Heil and expect to be called anything else, sorry) that tag along rather than patting them on the back, it's always going to descend to violence and the point is lost. Its a common theme recently for the right to play victim, but they're not looking in their own back yard. I'm not posting links but anyone who searches March for England can find the blog posts from these groups and their agenda is clear as day. They don't try and hide it.

Anyway, I'm not dragging up mfe history, we all know how it turned out. My point about it being nonsense is that the police do not go lightly with the antifa, it's easy to feel victimized and the argus was defo not on the side of mfe, but the police? from my point of view, they didn't give a **** which side it was, it was chaos and they were having the lot I'd expect.

And that's all I'm going to say on the matter, I oppose racism and hatred, and I oppose the violence equally, from both sides.

 

[So.CalGull]

I mentioned it as being symptomatic of why the liberals are so on the nose nation wide. Even among other liberals. Bill Maher a long time left wing comedian is even calling them out as being regressive and not progressive in their views and actions.

Mate, please wind your neck in.

I have posed you multiple times the question of when you lived here in the US and for how long...?

Please, please, please answer that question.

The amount of vitriol and depth of opinions that you have on life in the States has to be backed up with evidence of your own experiences of living here.

Go ahead and share those with the class please.

Serious question mate, back up your reasoning of hatred and vicious words with what happened to you here, I am genuinely interested in your hurt past of living in the US.

 

[W.C.]

Mate, please wind your neck in.

I have posed you multiple times the question of when you lived here in the US and for how long...?

Please, please, please answer that question.

The amount of vitriol and depth of opinions that you have on life in the States has to be backed up with evidence of your own experiences of living here.

Go ahead and share those with the class please.

Serious question mate, back up your reasoning of hatred and vicious words with what happened to you here, I am genuinely interested in your hurt past of living in the US.

Pretty sure he lived in a place called Youtube, Internet State.

 

[GT49er]

They only have to suffer for 4 years whereas due to the leave vote here we have to suffer forever and a day.

Congratulations! You've found another thread to moan on - you should be delighted. It is however, we, not you, who will be suffering for ever and a day - we will be suffering remoaners moaning!

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

Mate, please wind your neck in.

I have posed you multiple times the question of when you lived here in the US and for how long...?

Please, please, please answer that question.

The amount of vitriol and depth of opinions that you have on life in the States has to be backed up with evidence of your own experiences of living here.

Go ahead and share those with the class please.

Serious question mate, back up your reasoning of hatred and vicious words with what happened to you here, I am genuinely interested in your hurt past of living in the US.

You don't have to live in the US to have an interest in or understand what is going on. What a stupid thought process. That's like saying a university professor can't be a professor of medieval history because they never lived in the medieval period. See how ludicrous that sounds?

You literally displayed all the traits of the phenomenon of the triggering.

I love Americans, I dislike their liberal left. I'm allowed to rail against their ****ing idiot ways and thoughts.

Why you ask?

Because that shit lordery thanks to social media now makes its way to these shores far quicker and starts permeating through other cultures including mine.

Look where your location is, the heartland of Liberal stupidity, the celebrity Californians, the ones that are so full of their own self importance they thought they could make a plea in their echo chamber world and everyone would give a crap about what they said about the elctions. What exactly gives you such a great insight into the thought and machination of people from mid west when you're in Liberal lala land?

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

Pretty sure he lived in a place called Youtube, Internet State.

It's easier to find unbiased news and opinions on there when compared to the likes of CNN and Fox.

 

[W.C.]

You don't have to live in the US to have an interest in or understand what is going on. What a stupid thought process. That's like saying a university professor can't be a professor of medieval history because they never lived in the medieval period. See how ludicrous that sounds?

You literally displayed all the traits of the phenomenon of the triggering.

I love Americans, I dislike their liberal left. I'm allowed to rail against their ****ing idiot ways and thoughts.

Why you ask?

Because that shit lordery thanks to social media now makes its way to these shores far quicker and starts permeating through other cultures including mine.

Look where your location is, the heartland of Liberal stupidity, the celebrity Californians, the ones that are so full of their own self importance they thought they could make a plea in their echo chamber world and everyone would give a crap about what they said about the elctions. What exactly gives you such a great insight into the thought and machination of people from mid west when you're in Liberal lala land?

tldr: man in Australia who hates liberals tells man in America that he hasn't got a clue because he lives in wrong part of America, whereas man in Australia knows whats what in America because of social media. And some crap about 'triggering'.

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

tldr: man in Australia who hates liberals tells man in America that he hasn't got a clue because he lives in wrong part of America, whereas man in Australia knows whats what in America because of social media. And some crap about 'triggering'.

You need to pay attention more. Plenty of "experts" who live in the US told us Hilary was going to walk the election.

Thus proving position of location has zero relevance to knowing anything factual.

 

[W.C.]

Thus proving position of location has zero relevance to knowing anything factual.

You should start a book of quotes

 

[ROSM]

Since Kennedy, all American Presidents have been puppets of the system. Will be interesting to see how the manipulators react and how DT will fare.

Yep Kennedy thought the president would be in charge. And look what happened to him

 

[ROSM]

You need to pay attention more. Plenty of "experts" who live in the US told us Hilary was going to walk the election.

Thus proving position of location has zero relevance to knowing anything factual.

It's an interesting one because the FBI investigation into emails (following the hmm hmm wikileaks/Russia hacking) started just as early voting opened and ended just as it closed.

Now which states in the US allow early voting and how many of them turned out to be swing states where just tens rather than hundreds of thousands made a difference.

 

[Mo Gosfield]

Yep Kennedy thought the president would be in charge. And look what happened to him

As a result of the influence of his father ( arrogance and moral corruption personified ) JFK and his brother thought they were untouchable. They took on the men in grey suits, who wanted the Vietnam War to continue, for a good few more years and lost. He was a victim of the circumstances of the time. There was too much vested interest in armaments and black suppression.They made enemies of J. Edgar Hoover and Sam Giancarna and ultimately, that proved fatal.
Trump will be a very watered down version of the pre-election rhetoric ( which the snowflakes swallowed and believed ) and will still be a puppet of the system. The real power-brokers will ensure he doesn't get into muddy waters.

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

It's an interesting one because the FBI investigation into emails (following the hmm hmm wikileaks/Russia hacking) started just as early voting opened and ended just as it closed.

Now which states in the US allow early voting and how many of them turned out to be swing states where just tens rather than hundreds of thousands made a difference.

Do you mean when they reopened the investigation after more evidence came to light?

Trey Gowdy had tore through Clinton and James Comey long before any voting opened.

 

[Mo Gosfield]

Indeed he did. He is indeed a brilliant conman.

Well the Americans should be used to it after Obama.

 

[Mo Gosfield]

Trump won in the same way Leave won the Referendum. Most of the people who have subsequently protested about both should have been as passionate before the vote happened.

Ah well, thats what smug complacency with the status quo gets you.

 

[ROSM]

Do you mean when they reopened the investigation after more evidence came to light?

Trey Gowdy had tore through Clinton and James Comey long before any voting opened.

Um sorry to piss on your firework. It wasn't more evidence, it was what they already had and it took them 10 days to validate that.

It 'started' just before early voting and ended just as early voting closed. By which time over half the florida votes had been cast

Seriously, use your access to media in right on oz to check it out.

 

[Mo Gosfield]

They only have to suffer for 4 years whereas due to the leave vote here we have to suffer forever and a day.

Well you spend the rest of your life suffering, whilst some of us look forward to the glorious and predictable day when the EU crumbles and falls and they scatter in all directions like disturbed rats.

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

Um sorry to piss on your firework. It wasn't more evidence, it was what they already had and it took them 10 days to validate that.

It 'started' just before early voting and ended just as early voting closed. By which time over half the florida votes had been cast

Seriously, use your access to media in right on oz to check it out.

Oh you're espousing a conspiracy theory? I tend not to bother with them.

Who are you pointing the finger at exactly? The FBI?

It actually was a bunch of new emails they had found.

The FBI has learned of more emails involving Hillary Clinton’s private email server while she headed the State Department, FBI Director James Comey told several members of Congress, telling them he is reopening the investigation.
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“In connection with an unrelated case, the FBI has learned of the existence of email that appear to be pertinent” to Clinton’s investigation, Comey wrote to the chairs of several relevant congressional committees, adding that he was briefed about the messages on Thursday. “I agree that the FBI should take appropriate investigative steps designed to allow investigators to review these emails to determine whether they contain classified information, as well as to assess their importance to our investigation.”

That's months after the initial hearings, not 10 days.

 

[ROSM]

Oh you're espousing a conspiracy theory? I tend not to bother with them.

Who are you pointing the finger at exactly? The FBI?

It actually was a bunch of new emails they had found.



That's months after the initial hearings, not 10 days.

Nope. I'm just commenting on a series of events that undoubtedly had an impact on the outcome.

Whether that was by chance , fate or design.

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

Nope. I'm just commenting on a series of events that undoubtedly had an impact on the outcome.

Whether that was by chance , fate or design.

The FBI were dragged kicking and screaming every part of the way with the emails scandal so that would suggest they were on the Democrats pay roll more so than the FBI being in any kind of cahoots with the Republicans.