Dandyman
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Nothing to do with one up manship just anticipating the usual crap about people from "leafy sussex villages".
Trouble with the EDL at Brenford vs Orient
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Nothing to do with one up manship just anticipating the usual crap about people from "leafy sussex villages".
Brighton Breezy
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They project themselves as anti-Jihadists. Basically, they don't like muslims.
Dandyman
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I'm sure you'll have me through the Peoples Court before long Comrade.
What is the charge again; Ah yes: The accused denounced violent disorder by militants attacking people and policemen going about their lawful duty.
Comrades he is therefore a "Nartzee" and a "Racist" . Comrade Dandyman of the Brighton Internationale has spoken!
Off to the gulag I go.
I don't doubt you would have made the same comment about the East End defending itself against the Blackshirts at Cable Street in 1936.
The Spanish
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plenty of people from leafy sussex villages commute. Thats kind of the point of letting off bombs on central London public transport. Letting one off in East Ham is not exactly going to bring about the desired clash of civilisations is it.
daveinprague
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As im out of the country and the EDL is a 'new' organisation....ive had a look thru some youtube videos... so far, ive failed to see any black people as claimed earlier with them... also, can somebody explain to me why the 'sieg heil' salute seems so popular? Seeing as how they represent the ENGLISH ?
I realise they are not BNP as one of the banners on a youtube video says.. 'we are not BNP'...yeah? ..funny shit.
I realise they are not BNP as one of the banners on a youtube video says.. 'we are not BNP'...yeah? ..funny shit.
Milton Keynes Seagull
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I fail to see the relevance of that incident anymore than I do would by citing the brave Hungarian democrats who fought in the streets of Budapest against Communist tyranny in 1956.
readingstockport
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One of those is Stockport iirc
edit to say Sorry, that didn't include the picture.
The Spanish
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Because it attracts f***ing idiots Dave. Meanwhile someone is making a bomb in their bedroom in Leeds and mongs going around singing no surrender mean the vast 97 New Labour Vote goes tsk tsk look at the yobboes instead of thinking What The f*** is Going On British Asians Are Turning Themselves into Suicide Bombers.
daveinprague
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Do you think previous racism against asians from groups like the BNP/NF has alienated British/Asian youth to the point that they turn to fundamental Islam for respect?
Have these bombers been created out of British racism?
Have these bombers been created out of British racism?
Milton Keynes Seagull
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For a start left wing inflitrators in the EDL ranks have been caught out giving stiff arm salutes for propaganda purposes:-
Bolton News 23/03/10
A UAF protester has been fined and ordered to pay costs amounting to £150 after performing a Nazi Salute at the demonstration in Bolton. Nicholas Williams, from Pickford Court, Old Trafford traveled from his home to support the UAF
Secondly are hundreds of people to be condemned by the actions of one or two people.
Thirdly I very much doubt that someone who was Jewish would write this about a Nazi organization:-
While the EDL (and any organization, for that matter, that fights Islamic supremacism) is smeared with slanderous accusations of racism with no proof and no evidence, true fascism and racism is sanctioned by the same media and political elite.
As a proud Jew and passionate Zionist, I have found the EDL to be a responsible, inclusive organisation fighting sharia law and Islamic supremacism in the UK.
Just this past weekend, the fascists (ironically named UAF, Unite Against Fascism), took to the streets, attacked police, and instigated violence against the EDL. And that was before the EDL had even shown up. 67 barbarians were arrested
The Spanish
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Perhaps you are right Dave. Perhaps then the people who were most exposed to mass immigration and were poorly educated about it were in fact let down by the people that created the policies that led to it, by not preparing them for it adequately. Perhaps then charges of criminal negligence could be bought to those people who allowed this to happen and consequently the bombs that are no ones fault but British society's.
About a month ago, I was out on my usual lunchtime run and came across several hundred EDL people on a march.
As I carried on with my run, I noticed untold meat wagons and police at the houses of parliament. 5 or 600 EDL were marching to Houses of Parliament where 1 or 200 anti fascist types were there to meet them.
My thoughts:
* The EDL were twunts to a man. Every single one that I saw (and I ran on the opposite side of the road on the embankment) was white and a total f***ing chav.
* You can't take the EDL seriously for this precise reason. Political pressure groups will always be considered racist unless they are made up of a broad spectrum of the nation.
* The anti fascist types were crusty hippy workshy types to a man. I f***ing ask you, why BOTHER fronting these EDL marches? No-one takes them seriously - and even if we did, we have f***ing JOBS to do. Why not try it some time and try actually contributing to the society you seem to think you're protecting (but are simply costing a small fortune in police bills)
* And another thing, the number of helicopters and police required to man this march ws ridiculous - all because these anti fascists feel the need to react to these muppets.
So having seen it myself, both Dandyman and MK seagull are correct about their assertion of these people. Both sides are made up of the exactly the sort of twats you expect them to be made up of. And so is The Spanish to an extent - although how many suicide bombers have we seen since 1997? About 4 in a UK muslim population of a million or so?
As I carried on with my run, I noticed untold meat wagons and police at the houses of parliament. 5 or 600 EDL were marching to Houses of Parliament where 1 or 200 anti fascist types were there to meet them.
My thoughts:
* The EDL were twunts to a man. Every single one that I saw (and I ran on the opposite side of the road on the embankment) was white and a total f***ing chav.
* You can't take the EDL seriously for this precise reason. Political pressure groups will always be considered racist unless they are made up of a broad spectrum of the nation.
* The anti fascist types were crusty hippy workshy types to a man. I f***ing ask you, why BOTHER fronting these EDL marches? No-one takes them seriously - and even if we did, we have f***ing JOBS to do. Why not try it some time and try actually contributing to the society you seem to think you're protecting (but are simply costing a small fortune in police bills)
* And another thing, the number of helicopters and police required to man this march ws ridiculous - all because these anti fascists feel the need to react to these muppets.
So having seen it myself, both Dandyman and MK seagull are correct about their assertion of these people. Both sides are made up of the exactly the sort of twats you expect them to be made up of. And so is The Spanish to an extent - although how many suicide bombers have we seen since 1997? About 4 in a UK muslim population of a million or so?
The Spanish
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yep come to think of it they are doing really well when put in context. Well done them!
No one wants the British public to hate muslims more than suicide bombers. They make the EDL look like f***ing Quakers. This is all a bit stating the obvious.
What I find amusing but annoying about this thread is a lot of this disgust with the EDL is the thinly veiled snobbery dressed up as politically anti stances. Its so predictably British. But then perhaps I should be celebrating that as a part of our culture that is very much alive. Wow suddenly its all looking rosy again!
Milton Keynes Seagull
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It is very easy to smear people with labels and wild accusations. I entered this debate because I dislike sweeping statements and opinions which are presented as the author sees it as facts. The purpose of a forum is to debate and that is what I have done. For that, even having to play devil's advocate on occasions. I have typically been denounced as a "racist" and a "nazi". This is always the actions of the left when their views on certain issues are challenged.
The facts of the matter are that the EDL and the UAF have a right to protest in a democracy. They do not have the right to cause violent disorder, mayhem and attack each other, the police and innocent bystanders as has happened.
Personally, I support neither organization, but I do support democracy, lawful right of assembly and for people to impart their views and wishes as long as they are done so in a lawful fashion. The laughably named UAF seems to me to be the most similar organization to Hitler's Brownshirts in the way they pursue their political objectives by force!
The facts of the matter are that the EDL and the UAF have a right to protest in a democracy. They do not have the right to cause violent disorder, mayhem and attack each other, the police and innocent bystanders as has happened.
Personally, I support neither organization, but I do support democracy, lawful right of assembly and for people to impart their views and wishes as long as they are done so in a lawful fashion. The laughably named UAF seems to me to be the most similar organization to Hitler's Brownshirts in the way they pursue their political objectives by force!
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London Pompous
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Never mind having a go at Gerry Adams, it's Gerry Rafferty you should be quoting
"Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right"
"Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right"
daveinprague
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Well to be fair, 4 have and maybe 2 or 3 more tried. Not sure that is a huge representation of 'British Asians" most of whom would be as appalled of those actions as you and me, I would have thought.
The Spanish
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be fair only 52 people out of 60 million died in 7/7 so thats not too bad either.
blooody hell mate I know the vast vast majority in this country of all creeds just want a nice peaceful life. But 4 is too many. And it isnt just 4 by a long chalk. Desperation to normalise relations between communities should not lead to attempts to dismiss the problem through unsubstantiated figures. It wont work.
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Billy the Fish
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I saw a few of them at victoria station, I wondered what all that was about. The group of 20 or so that I saw just looked like a 90's football firm, lots of shaved heads and stone island jumpers.
I doubt it. I thought most suicide bombers are picked out specifically because they fit a cirtain mental profile which is easy to radicalise. I could be wrong though, mabye I've just watched too much 24.