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[Albion] Track and trace - 1901 East Stand?
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Wilka
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You don't have to check in to get an alert but have been in close enough contact with someone for a period of time.
I had Covid at the start of November. The app notified people I knew, who I had seen in the days leading up to my symptoms developing. Presumably a load of random people who I didn't know as well. But it also notified my neighbours in the downstairs flat because technically they had been in close contact with my by being a few feet away!
Ok fair enough [emoji106]
Ok fair enough mate [emoji106]
I’ve re read this several times and have to admit I’m struggling with what you’re on about ffs.
Pint of Ale and a Burger
New member
It’s not just places you sign into though. If your app is installed and active any person you “encounter” who has, or subsequently, tested positive will trigger an alert. The app I have only tells me how many days ago the encounter was, so I’m not really able to work out where it happened if I have been out and about. I share your pain though, as mine went red a number of weeks ago so I had to isolate until I tested negative.
Keep trying and you'll get there eventually. Think of it as a challenge - a bit like tying your shoelaces.
Why were you contacted and asked to isolate?
You were within 2m, for more than 15 min, of someone who has had a positive test and said 'OK' for others to be notified - you may have been in contact up to 2 days before they were symptomatic. They may not even had known that they had the virus when they passed it on.
Genuinely sorry that you have been in proximity / now need to isolate - but at least you are massively reducing the chances of passing it on to others.
"When someone develops symptoms related to Coronavirus, they are asked when these symptoms first appeared and asked to request a test through the app. If they test positive, they are asked whether the app can notify other app users they may have passed the virus on to.
The algorithm uses the date of symptom onset to calculate who they are most likely to have infected. The algorithm looks at the daily risk for every app user who they came into contact with from 2 days before symptoms first appeared, up to a maximum of 10 days after symptoms first appeared.
If an app user’s risk score on any of these days crosses the risk threshold it is identified as high-risk and they will be notified and directed to further guidance.
For the purposes of contact tracing, a high-risk encounter is classed as one where an individual has been within 2 metres of someone who has tested positive for Coronavirus for at least 15 minutes. The risk threshold for the app has been set to identify high-risk encounters based on this principle along with infectiousness (of the individual testing positive) on the day of the encounter; balancing the need to slow the rate of infection by identifying high-risk encounters whilst mitigating the risk that those at lower risk may be notified to self-isolate."
https://covid19.nhs.uk/risk-scoring-algorithm.html
You were within 2m, for more than 15 min, of someone who has had a positive test and said 'OK' for others to be notified - you may have been in contact up to 2 days before they were symptomatic. They may not even had known that they had the virus when they passed it on.
Genuinely sorry that you have been in proximity / now need to isolate - but at least you are massively reducing the chances of passing it on to others.
"When someone develops symptoms related to Coronavirus, they are asked when these symptoms first appeared and asked to request a test through the app. If they test positive, they are asked whether the app can notify other app users they may have passed the virus on to.
The algorithm uses the date of symptom onset to calculate who they are most likely to have infected. The algorithm looks at the daily risk for every app user who they came into contact with from 2 days before symptoms first appeared, up to a maximum of 10 days after symptoms first appeared.
If an app user’s risk score on any of these days crosses the risk threshold it is identified as high-risk and they will be notified and directed to further guidance.
For the purposes of contact tracing, a high-risk encounter is classed as one where an individual has been within 2 metres of someone who has tested positive for Coronavirus for at least 15 minutes. The risk threshold for the app has been set to identify high-risk encounters based on this principle along with infectiousness (of the individual testing positive) on the day of the encounter; balancing the need to slow the rate of infection by identifying high-risk encounters whilst mitigating the risk that those at lower risk may be notified to self-isolate."
https://covid19.nhs.uk/risk-scoring-algorithm.html
Tom Hark Preston Park
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- Jul 6, 2003
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Fair play to the twitter user for copying in the club, who will now be fully aware, assuming they weren't already
How do we know they were waiting for a result?
Bold Seagull
strong and stable with me, or...
I’m pretty sure track and trace would contact people and say ‘you came into contact with someone who tested positive on such and such a date whose result was confirmed on this date’. It’s a conversation with the operator to fully establish your contact and whether you need to isolate or not, how you’re feeling etc.
Bold Seagull
strong and stable with me, or...
If this is true, they went and were waiting on a test result, they’re potentially going to be in a lot of trouble both from the authorities and the club.
I can't remember but I suspect the wording of the declaration we had to complete 24 hours before KO covers this and potential sanctions at least to some degree.........................if true (don't know how the tweeter would know) then should be a very long ban incoming. Incredibly selfish behaviour.
Tom Hark Preston Park
Will Post For Cash
- Jul 6, 2003
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More to the point, are club now proactively contacting everybody who was in that lounge that day, whether they had a tracing app loaded or whether they didn't?
studio150
Well-known member
No, this is not a requirement, it was raised at the last Video Forum with PB.
For the test event against Chelsea, the conditions stated that when the app became available it would be necessary to download and use to gain entry,
However ahead of the first ballot, the club communication just asked for up to date contact details.
At the Forum a question was asked if the use of the app was still compulsory given since its release it has been seen to be not the silver bullet as first announced, given that it doesn't work in older mobiles and not everyone has an up to date smart phone. Also its use is not compulsory at other locations.
PB confirmed that the use of the app was not compulsory, although QR posters would be available to use for those that are using the app.
London Irish
Well-known member
I was surprised that the East Stand loungers weren't as distanced as the rest of us, there seemed only a one seat gap between them all? Was my eyes playing tricks?
Pint of Ale and a Burger
New member
Ahhh ok,that's good to know.
Thanks for replying as this is something I have been worrying about if I get selected for a game.
Cheers