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Bakero

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Oct 9, 2010
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The anti-tourism protesters have clearly gone too far if holidaymakers are being put off :lolol:

 




portlock seagull

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Jul 28, 2003
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portlock seagull

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Jul 28, 2003
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She chose not to write it in Spanish because she can't write it in English? 🤔
Christ you’re no fun. I didn’t realise I was engaging with someone so serious and so earnest. Just forget. We move on.
 


thedonkeycentrehalf

Moved back to wear the gloves (again)
Jul 7, 2003
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Insel affe

HellBilly
Feb 23, 2009
24,330
Brighton factually.....
Without a doubt the ones who liked to get f***ed up more than anyone else? The Japanese. They drink like fish and can put it away.
Agreed
They are also very, very, weird when they are pissed.
Agreed and a pleasant surprise, wink, wink, nudge, nudge....


Big shout out to the Germans as well, they can put it away, and when really drunk, occasionally laugh.
 


abc

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Jan 6, 2007
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According to UBS’s latest Global Wealth Report, some 500,000 millionaires will leave the U.K. by 2028, equivalent to a 17% fall, due to the scrapping of non dom status. Spain and Italy are expected to be the main destinations which is where the bulk of the anti tourist protests are. I wonder whether they will be welcome for their spending power or will attract protests as tourists?!
 


The Clamp

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According to UBS’s latest Global Wealth Report, some 500,000 millionaires will leave the U.K. by 2028, equivalent to a 17% fall, due to the scrapping of non dom status. Spain and Italy are expected to be the main destinations which is where the bulk of the anti tourist protests are. I wonder whether they will be welcome for their spending power or will attract protests as tourists?!
Nonsense
 




Nigella's Cream Pie

Fingerlickin good
Apr 2, 2009
1,134
Up your alley
According to UBS’s latest Global Wealth Report, some 500,000 millionaires will leave the U.K. by 2028, equivalent to a 17% fall, due to the scrapping of non dom status. Spain and Italy are expected to be the main destinations which is where the bulk of the anti tourist protests are. I wonder whether they will be welcome for their spending power or will attract protests as tourists?!
Could be good business for the 'exotic' natives
 




Weststander

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Aug 25, 2011
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Withdean area
According to UBS’s latest Global Wealth Report, some 500,000 millionaires will leave the U.K. by 2028, equivalent to a 17% fall, due to the scrapping of non dom status. Spain and Italy are expected to be the main destinations which is where the bulk of the anti tourist protests are. I wonder whether they will be welcome for their spending power or will attract protests as tourists?!

There are only 74,000 non-doms in the UK!
 




dazzer6666

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Mar 27, 2013
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Used to work with this mob.

Chinese students were rarely out. Always in studying.

French. Spanish, and Italians all loved to get drunk but rarely over did it.

Middle Eastern boys all got pissed but can’t handle their booze. At all.

Without a doubt the ones who liked to get f***ed up more than anyone else? The Japanese. They drink like fish and can put it away.

They are also very, very, weird when they are pissed.
Not in my experience. The Japs get absolutely shitfaced on what we would call ‘a couple of looseners’. They are very, very weird when bladdered though.
 


BrightonCottager

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Sep 30, 2013
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The last government's reluctant response to the AirBnB problem was to introduce the bones of a licencing system for all short-term holiday lets and a new planning use class for them, but only require new ones to get planning permission - and also automatically grant planning permission for a change of use from a home to a short term let.

So the only way a council could control increases in short term lets will be to go through the rigmarole of identifying areas with saturation of existing and then remove the automatic right to change the use. (Many Councils already do this for 'student houses').

Hopefully the new government will simplify the proposals to require existing short term lets to require planning permission as well as new ones. The most serious reason for this is because of the impact they have on housing supply. A few years ago I did some research on this and I'll dig it out for your entertainment.

In some areas they can also lead to disturbance to residential amenities (noise, waste etc) and arguably increase rental and house prices.
 


Harry Wilson's tackle

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Oct 8, 2003
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well probably no we shouldn't, and change law and regulations if its a problem. houses are for people to live in, if you want to visit somewhere there's a really good model of the hotel or B&B.
I agree. No matter how wealthy I become, the idea of owning a holiday home (that stays empty most of the time) make me feel icky. That said, I'm staying in an airBNB in Sennen in a few weeks which is, presumably, a holiday home of sorts. Investing in an AirBNB is OK isn't it?
 


dsr-burnley

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Aug 15, 2014
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well probably no we shouldn't, and change law and regulations if its a problem. houses are for people to live in, if you want to visit somewhere there's a really good model of the hotel or B&B.
But once again, it's back to the policy of cutting the numbers by raising the prices and making poorer people stop at home.

Have you compared the costs of a holiday cottage with a hotel? I've just stopped in a house in Upton-on-Severn that cost three of us just over £700 for a week. If we stopped in a hotel, then either we need to find one that does £33 per night per head, or else pay an awful lot more.

Actually the answer is a lot simpler. If market forces aren't to be allowed to determine the cost and use of property, and if some areas have more people want to buy houses than there are houses available, then build more houses. Prices will drop, and perhaps the number of tourists will drop as well. (I'm not at all a fan of the idea that people with the good fortune to be born in attractive little villages should have their accommodation subsidised to ensure that people born in inner cities can't have the same benefit.)
 




Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
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But once again, it's back to the policy of cutting the numbers by raising the prices and making poorer people stop at home.

Have you compared the costs of a holiday cottage with a hotel? I've just stopped in a house in Upton-on-Severn that cost three of us just over £700 for a week. If we stopped in a hotel, then either we need to find one that does £33 per night per head, or else pay an awful lot more.

Actually the answer is a lot simpler. If market forces aren't to be allowed to determine the cost and use of property, and if some areas have more people want to buy houses than there are houses available, then build more houses. Prices will drop, and perhaps the number of tourists will drop as well. (I'm not at all a fan of the idea that people with the good fortune to be born in attractive little villages should have their accommodation subsidised to ensure that people born in inner cities can't have the same benefit.)
Residential housing is essential. Holidays are not. Therefore prioritize residential.
 


beorhthelm

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Jul 21, 2003
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But once again, it's back to the policy of cutting the numbers by raising the prices and making poorer people stop at home.

Have you compared the costs of a holiday cottage with a hotel? I've just stopped in a house in Upton-on-Severn that cost three of us just over £700 for a week. If we stopped in a hotel, then either we need to find one that does £33 per night per head, or else pay an awful lot more.

Actually the answer is a lot simpler. If market forces aren't to be allowed to determine the cost and use of property, and if some areas have more people want to buy houses than there are houses available, then build more houses. Prices will drop, and perhaps the number of tourists will drop as well. (I'm not at all a fan of the idea that people with the good fortune to be born in attractive little villages should have their accommodation subsidised to ensure that people born in inner cities can't have the same benefit.)
holidays are a luxury, if you cant afford them do something cheaper or not at all. it's not the place of governement to provide you with what you think is cheap enough holiday. policy should build more absolutely, also addressing market distortions that increase demand for houses from non-residental purposes.
 
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