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[Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...









CheeseRolls

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Jan 27, 2009
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Shoreham Beach
Every time he opens his mouth his foot goes further in it.
I wonder if he even sees this? It's as if he just has to want it more than the other guy and sheer determination will be enough. As he said he had already attended stuff in Portsmouth and in France nad hanging around with a load of foreign dignatories who don't even get to vote was one distraction too many. Someone needs to take him aside and let him know it isn't The Apprentice.

During the ITV debate he was asked a couple of times about empathy and his response was judge me on how well I looked after people during Covid!

If he continues in this vein he is going to face a humilating defeat, which will be compounded by the Tory party placing all the blame at his door. He chose to go early, he chose to fight a presidential style election, despite never having been chosen by his own party. He chose to make up policy on the fly, imagine trying to sell this stuff on doorsteps.

I am not going to lie there are a number I will happily watch lose thier seats next month, but at the end of the day we need both a strong government and an effective opposition to keep them honest.
 


KZNSeagull

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Nov 26, 2007
21,091
Wolsingham, County Durham
I wonder if he even sees this? It's as if he just has to want it more than the other guy and sheer determination will be enough. As he said he had already attended stuff in Portsmouth and in France nad hanging around with a load of foreign dignatories who don't even get to vote was one distraction too many. Someone needs to take him aside and let him know it isn't The Apprentice.

During the ITV debate he was asked a couple of times about empathy and his response was judge me on how well I looked after people during Covid!

If he continues in this vein he is going to face a humilating defeat, which will be compounded by the Tory party placing all the blame at his door. He chose to go early, he chose to fight a presidential style election, despite never having been chosen by his own party. He chose to make up policy on the fly, imagine trying to sell this stuff on doorsteps.

I am not going to lie there are a number I will happily watch lose thier seats next month, but at the end of the day we need both a strong government and an effective opposition to keep them honest.
I have no idea why he is in politics at all to be honest, he seems totally unsuited to it.
 


Hugo Rune

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Feb 23, 2012
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I have no idea why he is in politics at all to be honest, he seems totally unsuited to it.
Really?

Take a look at the Sunak family wealth since he has been in office. Infosys have been grabbing millions and millions of pounds worth of government contracts. It’s hard not to imagine him not influencing this.

He has got what he wanted out of Politics now.
 






Berty23

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Jun 26, 2012
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Really?

Take a look at the Sunak family wealth since he has been in office. Infosys have been grabbing millions and millions of pounds worth of government contracts. It’s hard not to imagine him not influencing this.

He has got what he wanted out of Politics now.
I don’t but this. They were already loaded and before politics no one knew who he was. Surely being a little bit richer but lots of people hating you is not better?

Maybe he just has people telling him he will be great?

Sunak will leave to America, I reckon

Truss is already flirting with American nutters

Boris makes loads being Boris

At least Theresa May stuck about and carried on as an mp as she seems to care about public service (who turned up so different to truss).

Brown and Blair get criticised for things they have done, as did major, but they clearly valued public service.
 


Bodian

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May 3, 2012
14,219
Cumbria
I don’t but this. They were already loaded and before politics no one knew who he was. Surely being a little bit richer but lots of people hating you is not better?

Sunak will leave to America, I reckon
There's your answer. They won't care if some miserable brits don't like them when they are in their sunny Californian pad.
 












WATFORD zero

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Jul 10, 2003
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I pity Penny Mordaunt on tonight's debate. It would have been a tough ask to trot out the party line and double down on the £2,000 tax claim - as Mark Harper did on QT last night - but to have to do so off the back of Rishi's Dunkirk-style Normandy Beach Retreat is surely Mission Impossible?

Her brain must be addled. I don't see how she keeps Rishi in the game AND keeps her own political career alive. At what point do you throw in the towel on the General Election and start the fight to save the traditional The Conservative Party? It looks like the next leader will either be her or a right-wing crackpot like Badenoch, Braverman, Patel or even Farage.

And she doesn't even know whether she'll win her own seat, she could be out in less than one month, a shining light of the party just another leadership "what might have been" consigned to the political scrapheap like Michael Heseltine, Michael Portillo and Rory Stewart before her.
 




A1X

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Sep 1, 2017
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Deepest, darkest Sussex
Johnny Mercer’s conduct has been appalling too. The self-proclaimed voice of the armed forces desperately clinging to his job.

What an absolute shitshow. Get them out NOW.
He’s in a tight race against an ex-Royal Marine in Plymouth, so I think this is just him throwing in the towel
 






TomandJerry

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Oct 1, 2013
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BBC election debate live: Penny Mordaunt says Sunak’s D-day snub was ‘very wrong’ in seven-party clash
 












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