[Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...

[pb21]

I was wondering that. His heart is clearly not in the campaign and he must be thinking "Sod it, California's nice this time of year". I've no idea what would happen if he did. New Tory leaders are elected by the members after being nominated by MPs ... but if there are no MPs, what happens?

Maybe who ever is second in command?

Edit, so Oliver Dowden?

 

[aftershavedave]

I was wondering that. His heart is clearly not in the campaign and he must be thinking "Sod it, California's nice this time of year". I've no idea what would happen if he did. New Tory leaders are elected by the members after being nominated by MPs ... but if there are no MPs, what happens?

It's a bizarre situation, but not beyond thinking about. His campaign so far has been an absolute disaster at every step. I'm also thinking now that maybe Starmer held back on the £2k lie to let him hang himself? Risky strategy but it's worked out very well for Labour

 

[Gwylan]

Maybe who ever is second in command?

Well, that's a good question. Oliver Dowden is deputy PM but Mordaunt often steps up for him when he's not around. Labour won't believe their luck if it's Dowden, he's an even worse performer than Sunak. Mordaunt is a completely different challenge however, she's probably the Tories' most accomplished performer (which isn't saying much)

 

[pb21]

Well, that's a good question. Oliver Dowden is deputy PM but Mordaunt often steps up for him when he's not around. Labour won't believe their luck if it's Dowden, he's an even worse performer than Sunak. Mordaunt is a completely different challenge however, she's probably the Tories' most accomplished performer (which isn't saying much)

Sounds like it could be anyone.

Deputy Prime Minister of the United Kingdom - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[The Antikythera Mechanism]

I was wondering that. His heart is clearly not in the campaign and he must be thinking "Sod it, California's nice this time of year". I've no idea what would happen if he did. New Tory leaders are elected by the members after being nominated by MPs ... but if there are no MPs, what happens?

We could see the birth of the Reformatory Party.

 

[ROSM]

It's eye opening that sunak couldn't even prevent his own channel crossing

 

[Wozza]

 

[chickens]

It's eye opening that sunak couldn't even prevent his own channel crossing

Well, I think we’re done here, the internet’s been won. Shut it down boys.

 

[A1X]

I was wondering that. His heart is clearly not in the campaign and he must be thinking "Sod it, California's nice this time of year". I've no idea what would happen if he did. New Tory leaders are elected by the members after being nominated by MPs ... but if there are no MPs, what happens?

Maybe he's doing a Brewster's Millions with the Tory seat count, the lower he gets it the bigger the bet he wins with one of his former hedge fund mates?

 

[GJN1]

Did I see Sunak wearing a 'Castrol GTX' branded jacket at the D-Day commemorations he did attend?

 

[Hamilton]

Morale is shot reports the FT.

Especially as the rats are now deserting the south in search of safe red wall seats whose members are now up in arms that they are having to accommodate candidates like the Chairman.

‘Morale is shot’: Tory campaign mood sapped by candidate row

As the Conservative chair moves to contest a seat in southern England at the election, party officials warn of northern losses

www.ft.com

 

[jcdenton08]

Zelensky has issued a video of his time at the events. You will be pleased to know that the section showing him meeting his strongest alllies has him shaking hands with Keir Starmer.

I have absolute faith in Starmer’s government to “do the right thing” with regards to Ukraine. Zelensky is in safe hands with us. Now, we need Germany to man up even if it hurts their oil and gas interests.

 

[Pavilionaire]

Even Liz Truss wouldn't have left the D-Day celebrations early.

Rishi's ineptitude has you looking back wistfully five years to the days of Theresa May who - at least - exhibited some stiff upper lip in the face of adversity.

I'm still in shock that Rishi left early - 12.12pm according to Sky News. When he looks back on his tenure as PM then surely the dignified solidarity of the 80th Anniversary of D-Day, standing shoulder to shoulder with other world leaders and being privileged to meet the brave veterans one last time as they reach their final years should have been a highlight?

Yet that highlight has now turned into a nightmare. This has been Rishi's own personal D-Day. The game is up.

 

[Berty23]

How long will it be until the media challenge his line today.

I paraphrase
“My diary was planned well in advance of today. In fact it was before the election”

Am I being really thick here?

He came back to do an interview about the election.

How can this have been in the diary since before the election was called?

 

[Is it PotG?]

How long will it be until the media challenge his line today.

I paraphrase
“My diary was planned well in advance of today. In fact it was before the election”

Am I being really thick here?

He came back to do an interview about the election.

How can this have been in the diary since before the election was called?

 

[KZNSeagull]

How long will it be until the media challenge his line today.

I paraphrase
“My diary was planned well in advance of today. In fact it was before the election”

Am I being really thick here?

He came back to do an interview about the election.

How can this have been in the diary since before the election was called?

Every time he opens his mouth his foot goes further in it.

 

[jcdenton08]

Does it matter who is advising him?

Would you have left early if you were PM? Would anyone you know have left early?

How can someone have that little respect and how can someone have that little political nous? Where were the alarm bells going off in his head when someone suggested this plan?

The advisers aren't to blame

If I was advised to do something monumentally stupid and insensitive in my regular low paid theatre job; “here mate, grab these live cables a second” I’d tell them to f**k off.

Imagine being the PRIME MINISTER, the supposed leader of the country, and blaming poor advice for something that ANYONE across the political divide with a modicum of common sense can see is completely stupid.

Absolutely f***ing outrageous.

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

The thing i keep thinking about is the crisis meetings that must be going on in the offices at the mail express and telegraph? Will they savage him?

Fully expecting headlines about princess Di or Jeremy corbyn tomorrow, but this is surely the closest they will have come to being forced to repudiate sunak and the tories

 

[Bodian]

How long will it be until the media challenge his line today.

I paraphrase
“My diary was planned well in advance of today. In fact it was before the election”

Am I being really thick here?

He came back to do an interview about the election.

How can this have been in the diary since before the election was called?

And also, given that the D-Day stuff was set out a long time ago - who scheduled other stuff into his diary 'well in advance'? Surely that merely gives truth to the other allegation that he didn't intend to go over at all.

Not sure which is worse!

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

If I was advised to do something monumentally stupid and insensitive in my regular low paid theatre job; “here mate, grab these live cables a second” I’d tell them to f**k off.

Imagine being the PRIME MINISTER, the supposed leader of the country, and blaming poor advice for something that ANYONE across the political divide with a modicum of common sense can see is completely stupid.

Absolutely f***ing outrageous.

The reason i reject this thing about the advisers is that the tories are clearly issuing soundings blaming the advisers, to distract from this disaster. If they get traction they will probably sack a couple to try to limit the damage.

From memory May tried exactly this.

But yes it comes down to sunak taking responsibility. At the time of leaving the beach, he surely must have had the thought, that the interview wasn't the priority