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armchairclubber

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Keegan’s experience in the IT sector includes holding senior leadership roles at the Royal Mail Group/Post Office Ltd,"
Seems he had a very important crossover role The Tories have kept this quiet . Surely he must have something relevant to say
I'm sure he will
 




abc

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And people ask that if Labour don't publish, today, a plethora of policies in a manifesto that will instantly, clearly and indisputably reverse the national decline caused by the tories, then why vote for them?

As if this justifies allowing a bunch of venal ****s to carry on gorging on public resources, redirecting public money into their own bank accounts. Even voting for it. Sake. :shrug:
Personally, I want Labour to publish because I want to be inspired to vote Labour by well thought out policies that will make a real difference. I will vote for them regardless in order to have a government that (hopefully) will not be corrupt, dishonest and completely devoid of ability. So they have my vote, but I do not believe they have a clue as to what they are going to do to make a difference, apart from integrity. As I have said before, that is enough , but then if they wont admit to not having workable policy then they are not being honest even before they become a government.
 


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Personally, I want Labour to publish because I want to be inspired to vote Labour by well thought out policies that will make a real difference. I will vote for them regardless in order to have a government that (hopefully) will not be corrupt, dishonest and completely devoid of ability. So they have my vote, but I do not believe they have a clue as to what they are going to do to make a difference, apart from integrity. As I have said before, that is enough , but then if they wont admit to not having workable policy then they are not being honest even before they become a government.
I'm not sure that they won't admit to not having a workable policy. I would imagine they think they do have a workable policy. But policy is very different from strategy, tactics and plan. A lot of that will need months to roll out. It's a bit like football management. Birmingham changed their policy when they brought in Rooney. Get rid of the anonymous plodder and replace him with England's second greatest goal scorer. There was no thought to strategy tactics or plan. Brighton didn't change policy when we brought in RDZ. Another bright young manager untested in UK football, who had achieved above expectation with unfashionable clubs. Our strategy didn't change a great deal either (in terms of spending on players - albeit it may have done so and we don't know about it because it is secret) but our tactics did. A different way of playing, and a different type of man management and training. I see good politics being like how Brighton is run. And that does not mean explaining in advance how every team selection over the next 5 years will achieve a win, or having to apologize and resign whenever we lose. And we put our trust in Bloom without his explaining the strategy tactics or plan. For the moment I'm content to cut Starmer some of the slack I cut Dick Knight when he took over from Archer. Whether the country is a f***ed as we were when we lost the Goldstone is a matter that only history will be able to determine.
 








Nobby

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During some of the Horizon/Post Office shenanigans, guess who was CEO of Fujitsu.

Why, it was Secretary of State for Education, Gillian Keegan’s husband Michael Keegan.
Moved across from the Post Office 🤣🤣
I'm not sure that they won't admit to not having a workable policy. I would imagine they think they do have a workable policy. But policy is very different from strategy, tactics and plan. A lot of that will need months to roll out. It's a bit like football management. Birmingham changed their policy when they brought in Rooney. Get rid of the anonymous plodder and replace him with England's second greatest goal scorer. There was no thought to strategy tactics or plan. Brighton didn't change policy when we brought in RDZ. Another bright young manager untested in UK football, who had achieved above expectation with unfashionable clubs. Our strategy didn't change a great deal either (in terms of spending on players - albeit it may have done so and we don't know about it because it is secret) but our tactics did. A different way of playing, and a different type of man management and training. I see good politics being like how Brighton is run. And that does not mean explaining in advance how every team selection over the next 5 years will achieve a win, or having to apologize and resign whenever we lose. And we put our trust in Bloom without his explaining the strategy tactics or plan. For the moment I'm content to cut Starmer some of the slack I cut Dick Knight when he took over from Archer. Whether the country is a f***ed as we were when we lost the Goldstone is a matter that only history will be able to determine.
I worry that this country is in worse state than the Albion under Archer
At least under Dick Knight there was hope of some sort of recovery with the full support of everyone behind him.
Despite everything that has happened and how bad it has become, Starmer will not get full support as he tries to turn around a generational downward shift in our fortunes.
 


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Moved across from the Post Office 🤣🤣

I worry that this country is in worse state than the Albion under Archer
At least under Dick Knight there was hope of some sort of recovery with the full support of everyone behind him.
Despite everything that has happened and how bad it has become, Starmer will not get full support as he tries to turn around a generational downward shift in our fortunes.
Well....I was going to tweak my post in that direction, but decided to be less hyperbolic. We don't yet have to rent part of Belgium and move the population there for two years while we find an uninhabited island to build a new society :wink:
 




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A mex eyecan

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We are an absolute shambles. Don’t give the Eton boys the key to the country ever again. They couldn’t run a bath by themselves.
well, they would only try filling it with champagne whilst leaving the plug out …. still who cares eh?
 




TomandJerry

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A 34-year-old Spanish woman was forcibly removed from the UK after returning from a Christmas holiday near Málaga despite presenting Brexit paperwork to border officials showing she has a right to live and work in the country.

She was flown back to Spain after being detained overnight in Luton airport on 26 December and told she was “wasting her time” if she thought the Home Office documentation she had showing her right to live in the UK was valid
 




Chicken Run

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A 34-year-old Spanish woman was forcibly removed from the UK after returning from a Christmas holiday near Málaga despite presenting Brexit paperwork to border officials showing she has a right to live and work in the country.

She was flown back to Spain after being detained overnight in Luton airport on 26 December and told she was “wasting her time” if she thought the Home Office documentation she had showing her right to live in the UK was valid
Shocking story although it would seem there’s more to the story

Maria, a Spanish designer who is in the middle of a career change to a job working with animals, had made a late application for the EU settlement scheme in 2023 and was living with her husband and parents-in-law in Bedfordshire.
Her application was refused in June

From the same article to copied 👍
 




pocketseagull

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Her application was refused in June on the grounds she did not provide sufficient evidence, but she had asked for an administrative review of the decision and had a certificate of application (CoA) from the Home Office. It states “you can work in the UK until you receive a decision on your application to the EU settlement scheme”.

@Chicken Run you're a wally
 


Chicken Run

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Her application was refused in June on the grounds she did not provide sufficient evidence, but she had asked for an administrative review of the decision and had a certificate of application (CoA) from the Home Office. It states “you can work in the UK until you receive a decision on your application to the EU settlement scheme”.

@Chicken Run you're a wally
Does it state however that you can leave the country during the appeal and then return?
 








Nobby

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Well....I was going to tweak my post in that direction, but decided to be less hyperbolic. We don't yet have to rent part of Belgium and move the population there for two years while we find an uninhabited island to build a new
Peter Bone's replacement Tory candidate for the upcoming by-election ?

.. his girlfriend. :LOL:

Just about to post this as well

You
Could
Not
Make
This
Up

FFS 🤬🤬.
 


Nobby

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