Thunder Bolt
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[Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...
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beorhthelm
A. Virgo, Football Genius
- Jul 21, 2003
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what we nver do about food poverty is talk about a solution. and seems there's an obvious answer to provide foodstamps so those on benefits can get a sensible basket of food. why isnt this advocated by anyone?
It would require the goverment to spend to fix a problem for poor people (even if it's food stamps, it still needs funding), and conservatives don't like to do that. They're all loafers, they'll sell the stamps for cash to buy flat screen tvs and smart phones. and cigarettes etc.
It would also be opposed by liberals who see food stamps as a giant neon sign screaming 'poor person, shame them, SHAME THEM!' over their heads every time they try to get food for their family.
And there are other options being proferred. Food poverty is intrinsically linked to the cost of living crisis. Cut VAT on fuel. School dinners during school holidays. Reversing the national insurance rise. Cutiting import tariffs. Longer term solutions include increase the stock of council housing to drive down rent prices, etc. lots of ideas out there from various interested groups (from those looking for the people to do for themselves, to ideas for government policies and actions).
vegster
Sanity Clause
- May 5, 2008
- 28,272
That would admit that Universal Credit isn't enough and is not working though?
Much easier for the government to develop a high skills high wage economy .....arriving some time in the distant future after 2-3 years of recession/ stagnation and double digit inflation.
Or, just rely on society opening and supporting more Food Banks. I know which one will become reality.
beorhthelm
A. Virgo, Football Genius
- Jul 21, 2003
- 36,014
it requires politicans to talk about the problem and solutions, then government is about some actual implementing. we dont have a sensible discussion on this (and other) subject. its a general problem that exists, cost rising only increases incidence. because we dont have a solution for normal times, there's no plan when there is a crisis.
Machiavelli
Well-known member
We have a government that is interested in winning, not governing.
To win but not govern means that you just leave the shower of sh!te that's been erected over the past 40-plus years to do it's merry work.
To win but not govern means that you just leave the shower of sh!te that's been erected over the past 40-plus years to do it's merry work.
Regardless of the need for food banks or not, there are an awful lot of bods out there who really would benefit from being able to cook a few basic meals and I am sure many of them would admit it.
This doesn’t necessarily apply only to those who use and need food banks. One of my dear nieces is a case in point. Sadly, I think she and her family live almost entirely on takeaways and ready meals.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
You do know that people have to be issued with vouchers to use a food bank?
vegster
Sanity Clause
- May 5, 2008
- 28,272
But where would people learn their basic cooking skills? I believe that " home economics " cookery lessons have been much reduced over the years ? Children now are the children of people who never had the time or motivation to cook so have taken advantage of the previously cheap availability of ready meals and takeaways...its going to take time to change that.
Nobby Cybergoat
Well-known member
- Jul 19, 2021
- 8,624
Potentially government collapsing. They've previously denied this. If proved true, probably an imprisonable offence. How to prove it though
Hopefully he backs this up with proof.
- Jan 3, 2012
- 17,351
Was first reported back in April 2020 I think
https://bylinetimes.com/2020/04/28/the-government-is-giving-away-your-money-to-the-mail-and-the-sun/
Baldseagull
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dsr-burnley
Well-known member
- Aug 15, 2014
- 2,625
Colne Parish Church give out food parcels to anyone who asks. I'm sure they're not unique.
dsr-burnley
Well-known member
- Aug 15, 2014
- 2,625
That report is nothing to do with covid bungs. That's a rant from someone who objects to the government placing adverts in newspapers telling people about covid. Although he opposes advertising in all the relevant newspapers, including the Daily Mail, the Sun, the Daily Mirror, and the Guardian, he only mentions the first two because to point out that the Guardian and Daily Mirror were included would spoil his reputation as an irrational anti-Tory rant machine.
clapham_gull
Legacy Fan
- Aug 20, 2003
- 25,876
The laughable "poor people can't cook nonsense" again.
It will be Sky TV and fags blamed next.
The inability to cook is widespread across all social groups. I've met people who struggle to make toast.
However, I've been in and of hospital for many weeks talking to all sorts of people mostly patients.
Some are very poor, can easily throw a stew together but are struggling shopping at the budget supermarkets.
It's been an eye opener.
It will be Sky TV and fags blamed next.
The inability to cook is widespread across all social groups. I've met people who struggle to make toast.
However, I've been in and of hospital for many weeks talking to all sorts of people mostly patients.
Some are very poor, can easily throw a stew together but are struggling shopping at the budget supermarkets.
It's been an eye opener.
Tory meltdown incoming...
I thought this was an interesting article possibly for those “poor” people that can ”throw a stew together”
https://www.goodto.com/food/recipe-collections/cheap-family-meals-33813
And setting politics and to one side, if I was struggling financially and previously relied on takeaways and ready meals to feed myself and or family and were now finding it tough, well I’d bloody well learn to cook PDQ, it wouldn’t be “Sky or Fags”to blame though if I failed, just my attitude [emoji106]
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I thought this was an interesting article possibly for those “poor” people that can ”throw a stew together”
https://www.goodto.com/food/recipe-collections/cheap-family-meals-33813
And setting politics and to one side, if I was struggling financially and previously relied on takeaways and ready meals to feed myself and or family and were now finding it tough, well I’d bloody well learn to cook PDQ, it wouldn’t be “Sky or Fags”to blame though if I failed, just my attitude [emoji106]
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Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
£1 a head recipes? Some people only have enough money left for 30p a head, after rent, council tax, and energy bills.