Tommy Robinson

[Bodian]

Pretty sure I said County not Country.

But that's not really correct either is it.​

ARUNDEL AND SOUTH DOWNS - Conservatives HOLD​

BEXHILL AND BATTLE - Conservatives HOLD​

BOGNOR REGIS AND LITTLEHAMPTON - Conservatives HOLD​

BRIGHTON KEMPTOWN AND PEACEHAVEN - Labour HOLD

BRIGHTON PAVILION - Green HOLD​

CHICHESTER - Liberal Democrats GAIN from Conservative

CRAWLEY - Labour GAIN from Conservative​

EAST GRINSTEAD AND UCKFIELD - Conservative HOLD

EAST WORTHING AND SHOREHAM - Labour GAIN from Conservative​

EASTBOURNE - Liberal Democrats GAIN from Conservative

HASTINGS AND RYE - Labour GAIN from Conservative​

HORSHAM - Liberal Democrats GAIN from Conservative

HOVE AND PORTSLADE - Labour HOLD​

LEWES - Liberal Democrats GAIN from Conservative
MID SUSSEX - Liberal Democrats GAIN from Conservative

SUSSEX WEALD - Conservatives HOLD​

WORTHING WEST - Labour GAIN from Conservatives

 

[WATFORD zero]

Pretty sure I said County not Country.

You did indeed

So 6 Labour, 5 Lib Dems, 5 Tory and 1 Green MP in the county is a right wing skew

I think I see why, with your grasp of facts, you may be struggling understanding the make up of NSC

Doesn't make you look any less stupid though

 

[clapham_gull]

I don't like tofu if that helps to bring a bit of balance.

 

[clapham_gull]

What's everyone had/having for dinner?

Not tofu that's for sure.

 

[clapham_gull]

Can we get back to laughing at Tommeh?

Or tofu.

 

[Crawley Dingo]

But that's not really correct either is it.​

ARUNDEL AND SOUTH DOWNS - Conservatives HOLD​

BEXHILL AND BATTLE - Conservatives HOLD​

BOGNOR REGIS AND LITTLEHAMPTON - Conservatives HOLD​

BRIGHTON KEMPTOWN AND PEACEHAVEN - Labour HOLD

BRIGHTON PAVILION - Green HOLD​

CHICHESTER - Liberal Democrats GAIN from Conservative

CRAWLEY - Labour GAIN from Conservative​

EAST GRINSTEAD AND UCKFIELD - Conservative HOLD

EAST WORTHING AND SHOREHAM - Labour GAIN from Conservative​

EASTBOURNE - Liberal Democrats GAIN from Conservative

HASTINGS AND RYE - Labour GAIN from Conservative​

HORSHAM - Liberal Democrats GAIN from Conservative

HOVE AND PORTSLADE - Labour HOLD​

LEWES - Liberal Democrats GAIN from Conservative
MID SUSSEX - Liberal Democrats GAIN from Conservative

SUSSEX WEALD - Conservatives HOLD​

WORTHING WEST - Labour GAIN from Conservatives

Yes it is, that happens when a large cohort stays home or the vote gets split or both. Nice try.

 

[Crawley Dingo]

You did indeed


Doesn't make you look any less stupid though

But my reply to the almost duplicate post above does make you look more stupid. nice trolling though you got me to bite.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Not sure I can recall anyone getting such a debagging and defenestration on NSC, entirely down to his own folly, er, ever. Crikey.

 

[Bodian]

Yes it is, that happens when a large cohort stays home or the vote gets split or both. Nice try.

Eh?

Agree 100%, the number of members online represents about 1% of a Saturday gate.

Having a membership posting that skews left in itself isn't to much of a problem(although county demographics would skew right). Its just that this cohort appear to be labour party members and activists and a bunch of horrible bastards backed up by an imbecile with a mod panel.

But you said 'county demographics would skew right'. On the current evidence that simply isn't true.

How do you know the 'stay at homes' would have voted right?

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Eh?

But you said 'county demographics would skew right'. On the current evidence that simply isn't true.

How do you know the 'stay at homes' would have voted right?

Another weird right wing person being debagged and defenestrated on NSC today.

What's the matter with these people?

 

[Crawley Dingo]

Eh?

But you said 'county demographics would skew right'. On the current evidence that simply isn't true.

How do you know the 'stay at homes' would have voted right?

Er, because that is why the Tories lost a ton of seats? A fall in tory votes, a rise in Reform and Labour falling a bit is what gave Labour a massive majority.

Why is this difficult to grasp? Its common knowledge.

 

[Bodian]

Er, because that is why the Tories lost a ton of seats? A fall in tory votes, a rise in Reform and Labour falling a bit is what gave Labour a massive majority.

Why is this difficult to grasp? Its common knowledge.

We're talking about Sussex. The County.

Here are the Sussex figures. https://hellorayo.co.uk/greatest-hits/sussex/news/election-2024-full-results-for-sussex/

Conservative: 122,980
Reform: 57,954
RIGHT - 180,934

Labour: 125,513
Lib Dem: 93,502
Green: 57,810
LEFT - 276,825

Independent: 13,630

County demographics in 2024 do not skew right. Unless you have actual evidence that the vast majority of those that did not vote would have voted right.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

We're talking about Sussex. The County.

Here are the Sussex figures. https://hellorayo.co.uk/greatest-hits/sussex/news/election-2024-full-results-for-sussex/

Conservative: 122,980
Reform: 57,954
RIGHT - 180,934

Labour: 125,513
Lib Dem: 93,502
Green: 57,810
LEFT - 276,825

Independent: 13,630

County demographics in 2024 do not skew right. Unless you have actual evidence that the vast majority of those that did not vote would have voted right.

He won't agree that it's possible to prove a point with facts. Just wait.....

 

[BadFish]

He won't agree that it's possible to prove a point with facts. Just wait.....

Facts are like Kryptonite to CD.

 

[Crawley Dingo]

We're talking about Sussex. The County.

Here are the Sussex figures. https://hellorayo.co.uk/greatest-hits/sussex/news/election-2024-full-results-for-sussex/

Conservative: 122,980
Reform: 57,954
RIGHT - 180,934

Labour: 125,513
Lib Dem: 93,502
Green: 57,810
LEFT - 276,825

Independent: 13,630

County demographics in 2024 do not skew right. Unless you have actual evidence that the vast majority of those that did not vote would have voted right.

Right voters stay home, vote tactically etc. no room for independents in you dichotomy.

 

[Bodian]

Right voters stay home, vote tactically etc. no room for independents in you dichotomy.

Do you have actual proof or evidence that right voters stayed at home more than left voters? If not - it's just supposition on your part.

The vote tactically argument doesn't stack up when you look at the actual numbers does it. Nor does the independents argument - even if you added them all to the right count it gets nowhere near (but not all the independents were right - at least 3,000 voted for the Workers Party).

 

[Crawley Dingo]

Do you have actual proof or evidence that right voters stayed at home more than left voters? If not - it's just supposition on your part.

The vote tactically argument doesn't stack up when you look at the actual numbers does it. Nor does the independents argument - even if you added them all to the right count it gets nowhere near (but not all the independents were right - at least 3,000 voted for the Workers Party).

I read tons of literature on this phenomenon, quick search brought up this. weak but indicative.

Swing from Tories to Labour was because Conservative voters stayed at home, party chair says

Conservative losses in Thursday’s (20 July) by elections were because Tory voters stayed at home, Greg Hands has said.The Tory party chairman spoke to TalkTV after his party lost two safe seats as Labour gained Selby and Ainsty and the Liberal Democrats won in Somerton and Frome.A 24 per cent...

politic-news.space

 

[Thunder Bolt]

I read tons of literature on this phenomenon, quick search brought up this. weak but indicative.

Swing from Tories to Labour was because Conservative voters stayed at home, party chair says

Conservative losses in Thursday’s (20 July) by elections were because Tory voters stayed at home, Greg Hands has said.The Tory party chairman spoke to TalkTV after his party lost two safe seats as Labour gained Selby and Ainsty and the Liberal Democrats won in Somerton and Frome.A 24 per cent...

politic-news.space

The turnout for by elections is always poor and cannot be compared to a general election.

 

[South Stand Bonfire]

Right voters stay home, vote tactically etc. no room for independents in you dichotomy.

My take on why the Tories lost the election so badly is, regardless of your viewpoint on
their approach to Covid, Brexit or Boris and others, the Tories have ALWAYS relied on the premise that the economy and financial stability are safe in their hands. Once Liz Truss undermined that premise in her fiscal event, that Ace up their sleeve had gone.

 

[Nobby]

I’ll drive him there.

I’ll come too. Sounds like a fun trip.