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To everyone who spent Xmas on their own.



The Truth

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Sep 11, 2008
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Don't worry if it got you down because that's what Xmas does to alot of people these days. If you were alone let me remind you all that Xmas is now a time of spending loads of Money, making sure your spoilt children get even more spoilt, a day where everyone should spoil themselves with rich food and fancy drinks. A time when everyone wants to get pissed, why? Because deep down the day is very boring and uncomfortable ie taking gifts you don't want/need and giving gifts you can't afford.
What happened to the spirit of Xmas?

On Christmas day I felt it be good to give gifts to people who need them. I went to a YMCA bedsit aimed at helping youths who have no homes to live in and no family. Not one of them had received a present. None of them even had been visited untill I turned up. Some as young as 16. It made me realise how self-centered we all are when it comes to enjoying the xmas spirit. One of the youths wanted Xmas over just so he didn't have to feel so alone as all he hears on Tv is how xmas is all about iceland special xmas dinner meals and families being together and all for having this so called beautiful connection. Xmas isn't about that, in fact it has nothing to do with anything other than the birth of a fictional character called Jesus.

Why do the unfortunate ones in life need to feel worse on a day where everyone is having such a wonderful time? Because Money is the core to this celebration, not the spirit of the occasion. I spent Xmas with my family and felt a feeling of guilt knowing there's people out there with nothing who would appreciate anything given to them. So rather me receiving and giving gifts I thought I'd take a few hours out of my time a give what I could to those who need Xmas. It made me feel a million times better and I'm now gonna do this every Xmas as really this is what the xmas spirit is really about, making people feel nice instead of rich for a day.
 
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jordanseagull

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Feb 11, 2009
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Don't worry if it got you down because that's what Xmas does to alot of people these days. If you were alone let me remind you all that Xmas is now a time of spending loads of Money, making sure your spoilt children get even more spoilt, a day where everyone should spoil themselves with rich food and fancy drinks. A time when everyone wants to get pissed, why? Because deep down the day is very boring and uncomfortable ie taking gifts you don't want/need and giving gifts you can't afford.
What happened to the spirit of Xmas?

On Christmas day I felt it be good to give gifts to people who need them. I went to a YMCA bedsit aimed at helping youths who have no homes to live in and no family. Not one of them had received a present. None of them even had been visited untill I turned up. Some as young as 16. It made me realise how self-centered we all are when it comes to enjoying the xmas spirit. One of the youths wanted Xmas over just so he didn't have to feel so alone as all he hears on Tv is how xmas is all about iceland special xmas dinner meals and families being together and all for having this so called beautiful connection. Xmas isn't about that, in fact it has nothing to do with anything other than the birth of a fictional character called Jesus.

Why do the unfortunate ones in life need to feel worse on a day where everyone is having such a wonderful time? Because Money is the core to this celebration, not the spirit of the occasion. I spent Xmas with my family and felt a feeling of guilt knowing there's people out there with nothing who would appreciate anything given to them. So rather me receiving and giving gifts I thought I'd take a few hours out of my time a give what I could to those who need Xmas. It made me feel a million times better and I'm now gonna do this every Xmas as really this is what the xmas spirit is really about, making people feel nice instead of rich for a day.

Eh? Apart from that, great post and nice thing to do.
 


The Truth

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Eh? Apart from that, great post and nice thing to do.

Yes it may come accross as harsh but like it or not, no one on this planet has ever been to Heaven and back. No one on this planet has ever even come close to knowing what happens next and know one will ever know. How do I know this? common sense. What if I started saying I died last night and found out God is just a packet of salt n vinegar crisps needing someone to open him. Wouldn't everyone think i'm mad?

ps Born a Catholic, went to church every week and was taught Homophobics are a mistake and need help!-WRONG!
 
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jordanseagull

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Feb 11, 2009
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Yes it may come accross as harsh but like it or not, no one on this planet has ever been to Heaven and back. No one on this planet has ever even come close to knowing what happens next and know one will ever know. How do I know this? common sense. What if I started saying I died last night and found out God is just a packet of salt n vinegar crisps needing someone to open him. Wouldn't everyone think i'm mad?

Not disputing that. But the fact is, Jesus was born and was a person, and he did have a big impact on many people's lives! Therefore, the portrayed idea's may be fictional, but not the man himself!
 


The Truth

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Not disputing that. But the fact is, Jesus was born and was a person, and he did have a big impact on many people's lives! Therefore, the portrayed idea's may be fictional, but not the man himself!

Agreed yes he may of walked this planet as a human, but the fictional part of Jesus is pretty much everything else he represents ie son of God, a resurrection, the ability to save disease with just the touch of his hand etc
-that is the fictional character we celebrate.
 




jordanseagull

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Feb 11, 2009
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Agreed yes he may of walked this planet as a human, but the fictional part of Jesus is pretty much everything else he represents ie son of God, a resurrection, the ability to save disease with just the touch of his hand etc
-that is the fictional character we celebrate.

I'll tell you what, that debate just goes on and on and on and on!

Christmas is good though, for us lucky ones to be able to see family that we haven't seen for a while like I did this Christmas. But, as you've said, not everybody has such a luxury.
 


The Truth

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I'll tell you what, that debate just goes on and on and on and on!

Christmas is good though, for us lucky ones to be able to see family that we haven't seen for a while like I did this Christmas. But, as you've said, not everybody has such a luxury.


Glad you had a gooden and i hope everyone else can. I'd just wish we would push charity as a gift more than 30% discount at HMV. Next year if you have the time, give a a bit of your xmas to people who have none of the things you were able to appreciate like a family.
 
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jordanseagull

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Feb 11, 2009
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Glad you had a gooden and i hope everyone else can. I'd just wish we would push charity as a gift more than 30% discount at HMV. Next year if you have the time, give a a bit of your xmas to people who have none of the things you were able to appreciate like a family.

You know what, I will, and I very nearly did this year, too. Was going to try and do some stuff for the homeless.

Unfortunately, I got too tied down to everything that the modern day celebration of christmas represents, and it is worrying that even someone who cares such as myself for these unfortunate people did not have the time to try and help others. Bit shit, really, I'll make a bigger effort next year.
 






Agreed yes he may of walked this planet as a human, but the fictional part of Jesus is pretty much everything else he represents ie son of God, a resurrection, the ability to save disease with just the touch of his hand etc
-that is the fictional character we celebrate.

Don't blame Mr J. He was born a Jew, lived a Jewish life & died a Jew. The problems started with those disciples 100 years after his death......

Good on you fella for 'putting something back into society'. If we all could do our bit, then the world would undoubtably be a better place
 


Normal Rob

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Jul 8, 2003
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Don't worry if it got you down because that's what Xmas does to alot of people these days. If you were alone let me remind you all that Xmas is now a time of spending loads of Money, making sure your spoilt children get even more spoilt, a day where everyone should spoil themselves with rich food and fancy drinks. A time when everyone wants to get pissed, why? Because deep down the day is very boring and uncomfortable ie taking gifts you don't want/need and giving gifts you can't afford.
What happened to the spirit of Xmas?

On Christmas day I felt it be good to give gifts to people who need them. I went to a YMCA bedsit aimed at helping youths who have no homes to live in and no family. Not one of them had received a present. None of them even had been visited untill I turned up. Some as young as 16. It made me realise how self-centered we all are when it comes to enjoying the xmas spirit. One of the youths wanted Xmas over just so he didn't have to feel so alone as all he hears on Tv is how xmas is all about iceland special xmas dinner meals and families being together and all for having this so called beautiful connection. Xmas isn't about that, in fact it has nothing to do with anything other than the birth of a fictional character called Jesus.

Why do the unfortunate ones in life need to feel worse on a day where everyone is having such a wonderful time? Because Money is the core to this celebration, not the spirit of the occasion. I spent Xmas with my family and felt a feeling of guilt knowing there's people out there with nothing who would appreciate anything given to them. So rather me receiving and giving gifts I thought I'd take a few hours out of my time a give what I could to those who need Xmas. It made me feel a million times better and I'm now gonna do this every Xmas as really this is what the xmas spirit is really about, making people feel nice instead of rich for a day.


Ahem - I'll say it...

oh just do one you boring, sanctimonious, miserable sod.

and stop editing your posts as well - it might give the impression that you're drunk.
 




Lush

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Religious arguments aside, that's an interesting post, not least because of what it says about charities that try and help people on the margins of society and how much support they get. Christmas is usually a time of a bit of extra kindness - what does it say to these kids when they don't see any?

My mum, who was a teacher, tells an entertaining story of elderly people who'd been bussed into her school for Xmas Dinner complaining that it wasn't as good as the one they'd had at another school the day before. Some charities are far more popular than others - RNLI and Guide Dogs have pretty healthy assets, mainly from legacies.

Good on you Mr Truth for making the effort.
 




Gerbil

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It has been pretty much proved that a man called Jesus existed. But if he was the son of god that is a different story.
 




Wozza

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Jul 6, 2003
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If you were alone let me remind you all that Xmas is now a time of spending loads of Money, making sure your spoilt children get even more spoilt, a day where everyone should spoil themselves with rich food and fancy drinks. A time when everyone wants to get pissed, why? Because deep down the day is very boring and uncomfortable ie taking gifts you don't want/need and giving gifts you can't afford.

Are you talking about your family Christmas or everyone's? :wozza:
 


dougdeep

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May 9, 2004
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So someone who doesn't believe the Jesus story finds Christmas uncomfortable and boring. Might be trying to tell you something. . .

Well perhaps the Christians shouldn't have stolen Christmas in the first place. We Pagans were quite happy celebrating the equinox with our ale and mead before the do-gooders came along.
 




bhaexpress

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Jul 7, 2003
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Kent
Don't worry if it got you down because that's what Xmas does to alot of people these days. If you were alone let me remind you all that Xmas is now a time of spending loads of Money, making sure your spoilt children get even more spoilt, a day where everyone should spoil themselves with rich food and fancy drinks. A time when everyone wants to get pissed, why? Because deep down the day is very boring and uncomfortable ie taking gifts you don't want/need and giving gifts you can't afford.
What happened to the spirit of Xmas?

On Christmas day I felt it be good to give gifts to people who need them. I went to a YMCA bedsit aimed at helping youths who have no homes to live in and no family. Not one of them had received a present. None of them even had been visited untill I turned up. Some as young as 16. It made me realise how self-centered we all are when it comes to enjoying the xmas spirit. One of the youths wanted Xmas over just so he didn't have to feel so alone as all he hears on Tv is how xmas is all about iceland special xmas dinner meals and families being together and all for having this so called beautiful connection. Xmas isn't about that, in fact it has nothing to do with anything other than the birth of a fictional character called Jesus.

Why do the unfortunate ones in life need to feel worse on a day where everyone is having such a wonderful time? Because Money is the core to this celebration, not the spirit of the occasion. I spent Xmas with my family and felt a feeling of guilt knowing there's people out there with nothing who would appreciate anything given to them. So rather me receiving and giving gifts I thought I'd take a few hours out of my time a give what I could to those who need Xmas. It made me feel a million times better and I'm now gonna do this every Xmas as really this is what the xmas spirit is really about, making people feel nice instead of rich for a day.

Like it or not you have shown the spirit that most Christians would like to eminate, well done that man. That is the real Spirit of Christmas as far as I'm concerned. :thumbsup::clap:
 


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