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Icy Gull

Back on the rollercoaster
Jul 5, 2003
72,015
Being Brighton we'll probably struggle in the next two games and win a couple of the "big" games that everyone expects us to lose in November. It was always thus.

The only time I've given up was last season when stumbling through progressive rounds of the Tin Pot trophy kept a clearly clueless Adams in a job far too long. It's incredibly frustrating this season but I can see good things amongst the shit results. A bit of luck and a couple of back to back wins will see us stabilise a little and finish mid to lower table with some entertaining stuff along the way, imo.
 




Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,971
Surrey
Disappointing of course, but 3 straight wins puts up just outside the play offs. Personally, I think I'll write off our chances if we're not in the top half by Christmas. Far far too early to be worrying about it.

In the mean time, try not to let 11 people you don't know affect your mood too much,
 




Giraffe

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Aug 8, 2005
27,245
Don't agree. Had we won at Tranmere we would have been three points short of the play offs, going into back to back home games, and I suspect the feeling on here would be very different. We can put a run together and I think we may well surprise a few at how well we cope with those difficult games that are coming up.
 


Perry Milkins

Just a quiet guy.
Aug 10, 2007
6,311
Ardingly
Disappointing of course, but 3 straight wins puts up just outside the play offs. Personally, I think I'll write off our chances if we're not in the top half by Christmas. Far far too early to be worrying about it.

In the mean time, try not to let 11 people you don't know affect your mood too much,

Simster that is a bit like saying I am skint but if I win the lottery then everything will be fine. The critical point is whether the squad and the management team are capable of deliivering the 'three straight wins'.

At the moment we may have an overall improved squad and be able to lay some really 'pretty' football. But in my view perhaps if we concentrated on grinding our results, cutting out silly mistakes and improving the disciplinary record we could make a solid rise up the table.

I may be raising myself up to be shot down in flames but why do we see new blood in the team who look promising over the first few games only to be seen as mediocre after a while. Could it be the quality of man management and coaching.

I am also sick of the same old cliche driven press commentary like the one from Virgo 'We must improve our discipline' 'No shit sherlock. Now I know the players have to be interviewed and the
Argus have to raise stories but come one!
 


Brighton Breezy

New member
Jul 5, 2003
19,439
Sussex
Disappointing of course, but 3 straight wins puts up just outside the play offs. Personally, I think I'll write off our chances if we're not in the top half by Christmas. Far far too early to be worrying about it.

In the mean time, try not to let 11 people you don't know affect your mood too much,

Where exactly will we get three straight wins when we can't manage them against Yeovil, Gillingham and Tranmere?
 




Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,971
Surrey
Where exactly will we get three straight wins when we can't manage them against Yeovil, Gillingham and Tranmere?
I'm not a mind reader, and I'm not saying it will happen. I'm saying it might, which is true.

My main point is that if we're around 10th or 11th at the turn of the year, we'll still be in the hunt for a play off spot.
 


Brighton Breezy

New member
Jul 5, 2003
19,439
Sussex
True.

But if we perform like we are regularly in the forthcoming four matches against Leeds, Charlton, Southampton and Norwich will be in a relegation scrap.

Swings and roundabouts.
 


Perry Milkins

Just a quiet guy.
Aug 10, 2007
6,311
Ardingly
I'm not a mind reader, and I'm not saying it will happen. I'm saying it might, which is true.

My main point is that if we're around 10th or 11th at the turn of the year, we'll still be in the hunt for a play off spot.

The point to make is the likelihood of that happening based on your knowledge and views on where the club is and where they are going. It cannot stack up to just say '3 straight wins' and everything is hunky dory as that does not address the manifest isssue of consistency and determination to win the three straight games.

I take your point that all is not doom and gloom and we are in sight of being in a more promising position but there are an ever increasing number who have or are losing faith in the squad and manager.
 




Mendoza

NSC's Most Stalked
Two home games in a row against mid table opposition. These are the sort of games we would turn up to Withdean knowing we would win. That feeling has completely gone.

November is going to be a very tough month, but normally the games we fear, we get some credit out of. But I have a feeling credit will be in the form of battling 0-0 draws, not wins.

Yeovil, Tranmere, Gillingham, Oldham and Hartlepool, we would normally expect a points haul in double figures, so far we have 4 points, with 6 more to play for.

I think now we have to expcet 4 points from the next 2 home games, which would take us to 8 from a possible 15 points, which in all honesty, isnt that bad.
 




Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,971
Surrey
True.

But if we perform like we are regularly in the forthcoming four matches against Leeds, Charlton, Southampton and Norwich will be in a relegation scrap.

Swings and roundabouts.
Indeed, but ultimately we've only played 13 games on which to form our opinions. I just can't get that aggravated about a lowly league status after 2 months when we are 3 games from being in a *totally* different position. All I want to see is noticeable improvement on last season, and everybody I know who goes regularly is saying the same thing - we're in a false position and we're not playing that badly.

The point to make is the likelihood of that happening based on your knowledge and views on where the club is and where they are going. It cannot stack up to just say '3 straight wins' and everything is hunky dory as that does not address the manifest isssue of consistency and determination to win the three straight games.
Nope, the point to make is that we are 13 games into the season with a rebuilt side, we're playing OK, we've been a bit unlucky and we are improved from last season.
 




Dave the OAP

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
46,762
at home
Indeed, but ultimately we've only played 13 games on which to form our opinions. I just can't get that aggravated about a lowly league status after 2 months when we are 3 games from being in a *totally* different position. All I want to see is noticeable improvement on last season, and everybody I know who goes regularly is saying the same thing - we're in a false position and we're not playing that badly.

Nope, the point to make is that we are 13 games into the season with a rebuilt side, we're playing OK, we've been a bit unlucky and we are improved from last season.

Someone has hacked Simster's account
 


Perry Milkins

Just a quiet guy.
Aug 10, 2007
6,311
Ardingly
Indeed, but ultimately we've only played 13 games on which to form our opinions. I just can't get that aggravated about a lowly league status after 2 months when we are 3 games from being in a *totally* different position. All I want to see is noticeable improvement on last season, and everybody I know who goes regularly is saying the same thing - we're in a false position and we're not playing that badly.

Nope, the point to make is that we are 13 games into the season with a rebuilt side, we're playing OK, we've been a bit unlucky and we are improved from last season.

I guess it a glass half full principle and theory. My way of looking at it is building improvement consistently with a blip here and there. I suppose others see it differently and have confidence in the team pulling three wins in a row - not my view right now.

Are you saying that you have some confidence that we can win thrice in a row then?
 


Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,971
Surrey
I guess it a glass half full principle and theory. My way of looking at it is building improvement consistently with a blip here and there. I suppose others see it differently and have confidence in the team pulling three wins in a row - not my view right now.

Are you saying that you have some confidence that we can win thrice in a row then?
It's not likely but is possible. What is more likely is that we'll gradually move into mid table with a steady improvement of results.
 






Forster's Armband

Well-known member
Sep 23, 2008
2,560
London
I think that conboy has hit the nail on the head. We need leader (or 2) and a revised coaching set up. Otherwise RS is going to lose his job. Actually maybe RS just can't get the coaching staff and experienced pros in, maybe we need a manager that can?
 




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