Time to dump the Kyoto agreement?

[looney]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/4600978.stm

I definatley think so. It was always going to be a cack handed, half baked agreement.

Generally speaking governments are crap at doing things, you should always look for market based solutions. Its just a pity to many people are wedded to outdated and failed methods.



Oh and its a waste of money.
http://www.copenhagenconsensus.com/Default.aspx

discus..........

 

[Juan Albion]

Parsnips
(Pastinaca sativa)

Varieties
Principal commercial varieties are All American, Hollow Crown Improved and Harris Model, all similar in size, taste and color.

Buying and Storing
Select firm, unshriveled parsnips of moderate size (large ones can be woody). The outside should be relatively clean and free of surface blemishes.

Parsnips will store well for several weeks in plastic packaging in the refrigerator's vegetable crisper.

Preparing
Before using Parsnips , rinse well, trim the crown and peel the outer skin.

Parsnip has a flavor described as nutty, spicy or peppery. It's well suited to prolonged cooking, as in casseroles and stews, or oven-roasted on its own. It also fares nicely microwaved, steamed or boiled.

Classic preparations include mashed parsnips topped with buttered bread crumbs, glazed (partnered with roasted meats or game), creamed or in mixed vegetable soups.

Nutrition
Parsnips contain potassium, fibre, Vitamin C and are a good source of folate.

History
In the Middle Ages, especially during Lent, Europeans favored the parsnip because of its flavor, nourishment and ability to satisfy hunger through meatless fasting periods. In fact, parsnips once enjoyed greater popularity than either potatoes or carrots.

Parsnips are enjoyed by North Americans, but are consumed in greater volume by the people of northern and eastern Europe and western Asia.

 

[Franks Wild Years]

I can't stand parsnips, It gives me the shivers just thinking of them.

 

[Silent Bob]

The Cretaceous period is one of the major divisions of the geologic timescale, reaching from the end of the Jurassic period, about 146 million years ago (Ma), to the beginning of the Paleocene epoch of the Tertiary period (65.5 Ma). The end of the Cretaceous also defines the boundary between the Mesozoic and Cenozoic eras.

Name and dating

As with other older geologic periods, the rock beds that define the Cretaceous are well identified, but the exact dates of the period's start and end are uncertain by a few million years. No great extinction or burst of diversity separated the Cretaceous from the Jurassic. However, the end of the period is most sharply defined, being placed at an iridium-rich layer found worldwide that is believed to be associated with the Chicxulub impact crater in Yucatan and the Gulf of Mexico. This layer has been tightly dated at 65.5 Ma. This bolide collision is probably responsible for the major, extensively-studied Cretaceous-Tertiary extinction event. The Cretaceous (from Latin creta, for chalk) was named for the extensive beds of chalk (calcium carbonate deposited by the shells of marine invertebrates) found in the upper Cretaceous of Britain and adjacent continental Europe.
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Divisions

The Cretaceous is usually separated into Lower and Upper Cretaceous Epochs. The faunal stages from youngest to oldest are:
Upper/Late Cretaceous
Maastrichtian (70.6 ± 0.6 – 65.5 ± 0.3 Ma)
Campanian (83.5 ± 0.7 – 70.6 ± 0.6 Ma)
Santonian (85.8 ± 0.7 – 83.5 ± 0.7 Ma)
Coniacian (89.3 ± 1.0 – 85.8 ± 0.7 Ma)
Turonian (93.5 ± 0.8 – 89.3 ± 1.0 Ma)
Cenomanian (99.6 ± 0.9 – 93.5 ± 0.8 Ma)

Lower/Early Cretaceous
Albian (112.0 ± 1.0 – 99.6 ± 0.9 Ma)
Aptian (125.0 ± 1.0 – 112.0 ± 1.0 Ma)
Barremian (130.0 ± 1.5 – 125.0 ± 1.0 Ma)
Hauterivian (136.4 ± 2.0 – 136.4 ± 1.5 Ma)
Valanginian (140.2 ± 3.0 – 136.4 ± 2.0 Ma)
Berriasian (145.5 ± 4.0 – 140.2 ± 3.0 Ma)
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Paleogeography

During the Cretaceous, the late Paleozoic - early Mesozoic supercontinent of Pangea completed its breakup into present day continents, although their positions were substantially different at the time. As the Atlantic Ocean widened and South America drifted westwards, Gondwana itself broke up as Antarctica and Australia rifted away from Africa (though India and Madagascar remained attached). Such active rifting lifted great undersea mountain chains along the welts, raising eustatic sea levels worldwide. To the north of Africa the Tethys Sea continued to narrow. Within the continents, a broad shallow sea advanced across central North America (the Western Interior Seaway) and then started to recede, leaving thick marine deposits sandwiched between coal beds.

Other important Cretaceous exposures occur in Europe and China. In the area that is now India, massive lava beds called the Deccan Traps were laid down in the very late Cretaceous and early Paleocene. Climates were warm, and even polar regions had no permanent ice.
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Flora

Flowering plants first appeared, although they did not become predominant until near the end of the period (Campanian age). Their evolution aided by the appearance of bees, in fact angiosperms and insects are a good example of mutual evolution. The first representatives of many modern trees, including figs, planes and magnolias for example, appear in the Cretaceous. At the same time, some earlier Mesozoic gymnosperms, like Conifers continued to thrive, although other taxa like Bennettitales died out before the end of the period.
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Fauna
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Land animals

On land, mammals were a small and still relatively minor component of the fauna. The fauna was dominated by archosaurian reptiles, especially dinosaurs, which were at their most diverse. Pterosaurs were common in the early and middle Cretaceous, but as the Cretaceous proceeded faced growing competition from the adaptive radiation of birds, and by the end of the period only two highly specialised families remained.

A fascinating glimpse of life in the Early Cretaceous is provided by the Liaoning lagerstätte (Chaomidianzi formation) in China, where the beautifully preserved remains of a number of types of small dinosaurs, birds, and mammals have been found. The coelurosaur dinosaurs found there represent a number of types of the group maniraptora, which is transitional between dinosaurs and birds, and are remarkable for the presence of hair-like feathers.

During the Cretaceous the insects began to diversify, and the oldest known ants, termites and butterflies appeared. Aphids, grasshoppers, and gall wasps appeared. Another important insect to evolve was the eusocial bee, which was integral to the ecology and evolution of flowering plants.
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Marine animals

In the seas, rays, modern sharks and teleosts became common. Marine reptiles included ichthyosaurs in the early and middle of the Cretaceous, plesiosaurs throughout the entire period, and mosasaurs in the late Cretaceous.

Baculites, a straight-shelled form of ammonite, flourished in the seas. The Hesperornithiformes were flightless, marine diving birds that swam like grebes. Globotruncanid Foraminifera thrived. The Cretaceous also saw the first radiation of the diatoms in the oceans (freshwater diatoms did not appear until the Miocene).
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Extinction

Main article: Cretaceous-Tertiary extinction event

In the extinction event that defines the end of the Cretaceous, a significant number of species (~50%) and known families (~25%) disappeared. Plants were nearly unscathed, while marine organisms were hit the hardest. These include a large number (~95%) of types of planktic foraminifers (excepting the Globigerinida), an even larger number of Coccolithophores, all the ammonite and belemnite cephalopods, and all reef-forming rudist molluscs), as well as all marine reptiles except turtles and crocodiles. Dinosaurs are the most famous victims of the Cretaceous extinction. Dinosaurs that were unique to the very end of the period (such as Tyrannosaurus rex, Triceratops, and Ankylosaurus) were wiped out. The last of the pterosaurs went extinct and the vast majority of birds did as well, including the Enantiornithes and Hesperornithiformes.

 

[Trufflehound]

Parsnip has a flavor described as nutty, spicy or peppery. It's well suited to prolonged cooking, as in casseroles and stews, or oven-roasted on its own. It also fares nicely microwaved, steamed or boiled.

Classic preparations include mashed parsnips topped with buttered bread crumbs, glazed (partnered with roasted meats or game), creamed or in mixed vegetable soups.

Curried parsnip soup is best of all. You know it makes sense.

 

[Raphael Meade]

It was always going to be a cack handed, half baked agreement.

interuppting the recipies for just a minute.. you've said it all there. always was a shit agreement innit.

 

[Robot Chicken]

I blame the pope

 

[Juan Albion]

Re: Re: Time to dump the Kyoto agreement?

always was a shit agreement innit.

Dutch agriculture minister Cees Veerman and environment state secretary Pieter Van Geel have reached a manure agreement with European Environment Commissioner Margot Wallström. The hard-won accord brings to an end a ten year dispute between the Netherlands and the European Commission about Dutch policy on manure. The Netherlands will introduce its new policy on 1st January 2006.

The European Court of Justice ruled in October 2003 that the Netherland's manure policy failed to meet the requirements of the European Nitrate Directive. The ruling forced the Netherlands to work out a new policy on manure. Under the agreement now reached, the old mineral declaration system ("MINAS") will be replaced by a new system pegged to maximum standards for use of nitrogen and phosphate.

The European Commission has agreed to the plans that the Dutch government submitted to the Lower House of Parliament in May 2004, although it has required the tightening up of a few points. They include a slight reduction of the permissible volume of nitrogen on grassland. Against this, however, the Commission has agreed to matters including discontinuation of the distinction between "dry" and "wet" sandy soil.

The agreement means European Commissioner Wallström has approved in principle the Netherlands request to derogate from the Nitrate Directive. On grassland the Netherlands wants to allow 250 kilograms of nitrogen from livestock manure per hectare, more than the 170 kilograms prescribed by the Directive. The agreement provides for the Netherlands to submit a formal request for derogation.

The Netherlands has agreed with the European Commission that in 2009 it will meet the standard of a maximum of 50 milligrams of nitrate in top groundwater. A nutrient balance will be achieved for phosphate in 2015. There will then be a balance between the volume of phosphate spread on land and their absorption by crops. This will be an important step towards fulfilling the environmental objectives embodied in the European Water Framework Directive.

The tougher manure policy substantially reduces the scope for using manure in the Netherlands and will increase the costs of selling manure. More farms will have to remove manure, start using more land or take business measures to operate within the rules. The result will be extra costs that put pressure on incomes.

 

[enigma]

 

[Man of Harveys]

 

[looney]

Intelligent debate is obviously beyond you retards. Hopefully someone with a brain will turn up.

I see enigmas still offering to give me a blowjob

 

[Juan Albion]

Intelligent debate

aka trolling

 

[enigma]

Intelligent debate is obviously beyond you retards. Hopefully someone with a brain will turn up.

I see enigmas still offering to give me a blowjob

keep fantasising lonely old man

 

[Barrel of Fun]

What is wrong with targets? If the Kyoto agreement is disbanded then there will be no way of penalising countries/companies that don't hit the targets and this is not a time for fumbling around. Our climate is at stake and damage is irreversible!

 

[looney]

aka trolling

With links to 2 serious articles?

 

[looney]

keep fantasising lonely old man

Well stop keep using the blow job smillie stupid. And your about a decade out with my age, I say about, could be more could be less but like everyone else here I am layghing at you not with you.

As Alan Partridge may say, I have my snout in the trough of kosher debate and I am the boards intellectual.

 

[looney]

What is wrong with targets? If the Kyoto agreement is disbanded then there will be no way of penalising countries/companies that don't hit the targets and this is not a time for fumbling around. Our climate is at stake and damage is irreversible!

Targets. They are not enforcable and Governments have different incentives, re-election so they are not going to crap up the economy. Oh and its easy to sign an agreement to f*** up someone elses economy.

Environmental Conservation can be profitable, ever though of selling that to the yanks rather than offering them socialism?

As for poor countries they can receive Environmental aid packages as well develope there own technology in an emerging market.

 

[Juan Albion]

With links to 2 serious articles?

. . . on a football forum . . .

 

[Barrel of Fun]

I stand corrected. I thought they were enforceable. I know that Britain is streets/miles ahead in reaching targets set compared to other countries.

Enough is enough. Leading countries, such as America, must not bow to the corporate influence. We have one chance in this world and that must be savoured. Nuclear seems to be the way forward.

 

[enigma]

Well stop keep using the blow job smillie stupid. And your about a decade out with my age, I say about, could be more could be less but like everyone else here I am layghing at you not with you.

As Alan Partridge may say, I have my snout in the trough of kosher debate and I am the boards intellectual.

"Stop keep using" ? I knew your spelling was bad but it seems your grammar is poor as well. Still, it must be hard to type and masturbate at the same time.

I dont think most people know it as the blow-job smiley- just under-sexed lonely people like you.