This team will go down as it stands. Some people need to wake up.

[nwgull]

Didn't Norwich lose their first x amount of games and go on to walk the league?

Wasn't it Reading?

Palace lost their first 3 games in 12/13, made a couple of signings just before the end of the window and were top by the end of November. They'd have probably gone up automatically if Freedman had stuck around.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

If we going to try and tread water in this division until the academy starts to bear fruit, again, I think most fans can handle it, but we DESERVE to be told.

Very dangerous game trying to tread water. You can easily misjudge and go under.

 

[Seagull73]

Wasn't it Reading?

Palace lost their first 3 games in 12/13, made a couple of signings just before the end of the window and were top by the end of November. They'd have probably gone up automatically if Freedman had stuck around.

Well that's probably because they were only a couple of players short. We are 6-8 players short.

 

[Nobby's Betamax Video]

Why do you not just get behind the team and accept that we are going through a bad patch. I would think the club are trying very hard to get players in. The club have a budget and it looks like players and agents want to much or as in the case of Ward, other clubs are stepping in. It may well be on the last day of the window that we see a few coming in as players options run out or they are willing to lower their wage demands. I think football on the whole is going through a transition as more and more clubs take a tighter line on wage demands. Yes there will be clubs who have a lot more money or who will gamble and pay over the odds, but Tony has drawn a line and good for him. The way forward is with the academy and growing our own talent.

Perhaps in 4 or 5 years we'll see some Academy products coming through. Which division will we be in then? We need to strengthen now! 5 or 6 quality players are needed & they'd need time to bed in. With the dealings in the transfer window so far, I'm not confident. We've spent months waiting for new quality whilst our experienced and creative players depart.

If this is a transition, it is happening too quickly and is imbalanced, with the obvious outcome for all to see on the pitch. Football is a confidence game and performances and results need to improve before morale and belief seep away.

Where have Boro got their money from for example? Certainly not from match day revenue or final league placing in comparison to us? This could have all been avoided.

Most pessimistic since the Hinshelwood 12 game losing run.

 

[scoobiewhite]

Wasn't it Reading?

Palace lost their first 3 games in 12/13, made a couple of signings just before the end of the window and were top by the end of November. They'd have probably gone up automatically if Freedman had stuck around.

When I was a student in Bradford in 98/99, they had 1pt after 4 games and 5pts after 7 games.

There was a big clear out in the close season.

Several key signings didn't arrive before the start of the season.

People were calling for Paul Jewels head and asking why on earth they had appointed someone with next to no experience.

They finished second and were promoted with Sunderland!!

It's just to early to panic!

 

[virtual22]

You're speaking like it's the end of the transfer window tonight. There's plenty of time, and everyone knows we need some new players; even the club believe it or not.

Why is it all of a sudden acceptable to be using the end of the transfer window as some point in time we need to have a team by? The league started last weekend, not in two weeks time. We had all of the summer to get the players in and get sorted. It's really starting to grate when I keep hearing on the radio and reading, "we have until the end of the transfer window"! People may say we didn't know Leo was going, really? I think any Brighton fan would have said after the Derby game thanks Leo, enjoy the Premier League. We should have had someone lined up ready to go.

We are in what is probably the most competitive division in the country, maybe even Europe, if we think we can give the other teams a 15 point head start we are sadly mistaken. It will come down to a few points at the end of the season and we could end up paying dearly for not getting ourselves sorted out for the 7th August instead of the 31st. Even if we do get players in for the 1st September, we still have to bed them in, learn the system, we could be seven weeks in before we are firing and that's way too later in this league.

 

[Steve.S]

I think most fans can accept that the academy will be the way forward in the long term. And that's absolutely fine. But I said it a few days ago, and I'll say it again, there is this thing hanging over Blooms shoulder now called expectation.

If we going to try and tread water in this division until the academy starts to bear fruit, again, I think most fans can handle it, but we DESERVE to be told.

And if that genuinely is the case, on what basis was Hyppia sold on our 'ambition'? Hanging around for the academy to beat fruit? I don't think so, do you?

So support the team, fine. Support the club, depends on who's running it! But there has been some monumental fvck up in our recruitment policy over the last 18 months, and the squad which had so much promise has been ripped to shreds in the process. So dress yourself up as a better fan because of your unbending loyalty or whatever you want to do, but this situation is a major cause for concern

Its nothing to do with loyalty, it's about reality. The club are not rich compared to other clubs in this league. Players want more then we can afford and that means its a waiting game. We are not the only club and as per usual a lot of business will be done on the last day of the transfer window. It will not just us buying on the last day.
You may well say that we offloaded and sold a lot of players in the last few months and we have. Some players we could of done keeping, but that's life, the premiership was calling and no player will turn that down. As for the rest, that's a matter of opinion, me personally felt that it was time they moved on. I do not need the club to tell me that we are in a period of transition, I can see that for myself. This is our 3rd manager in as many years for the star of a new season, it's going to take its toll. I am not happy and I wish things could be different, but come the next game I will be behind the team and hoping we can get a result, because it's not the lack of players that worries me, its Sammi going and that will cause just as many problems as it will solve.

 

[DarrenFreemansPerm]

Although we are shite, with our best players sold and with a bang average manager, having not scored against two of the poorest teams in the division, I shall NOT panic.

Until hawk the seagull says we are allowed to.

 

[Weststander]

I struggle to see what more we can expect from him with what he has at his disposal. I would imagine be is as disillusioned as the fans with the current state of the squad

The Championship squad Poyet was allowed to build (despite including Vicente, Barnes, Orlandi, Ulloa, Lopez, CMS, Buckley, LuaLua) in the 2 seasons as a whole struggled to score league goals, and that trait continued under OG who's squad diminished over Poyet's.

Hyppia's squad is now devoid of virtually all those players, so is it any wonder the Albion's poor scoring vein has continued.

How could anyone possibly blame the Albion's deep seated squad/tactics problems on Hyppia?

The effect is a double whammy, as over the last three seasons, opposition managers simply have to motivate their teams with "Look, they offer very little goal threat. Work today to snuff out what little threat they have, and we will get a result. If we score first, they're stuffed".

Only the recruitment of quality forwards and creators in the next 2 weeks, and then coaching can solve this.

 

[neilbard]

FFS let's all try and stay positive...... we could have lost 2-0 today!!

Idiot!!!

 

[neilbard]

Very dangerous game trying to tread water. You can easily misjudge and go under.

Drowned!

 

[maltaseagull]

You're speaking like it's the end of the transfer window tonight. There's plenty of time, and everyone knows we need some new players; even the club believe it or not.

I do agree with you, but you have to agree that it's pretty pointless having training camps in Spain and a pre season to gel the players as well as get them fit if the squad that starts the season is so different to what we have in September.

Why do we have to wait until 11.30pm on transfer deadline to sign 4 players?

Is it just to save a few weeks wages?

 

[peterward]

You're speaking like it's the end of the transfer window tonight. There's plenty of time, and everyone knows we need some new players; even the club believe it or not.

But what kind of imbecile, lets half the squad leave before replacements are signed?

Look at Huds and Clayton, they were not letting him go anywhere until they had their replacement coming in.

We sell everyone worth a bean and then simply hope we can find replacements whilst we're getting beat and left behind.

Its either amateur hour or we're that desperate to get money in, we'd gamble our whole season on it.

 

[The Fifth Column]

http://www.statto.com/football/teams/crystal-palace/2012-2013/results

i did just make that stat up, i didnt think anyone would bother to check! Good skills.

 

[throbinson]

I struggle to see what more we can expect from him with what he has at his disposal. I would imagine be is as disillusioned as the fans with the current state of the squad

Yes but to sit in the dugout for 80 mins and seem to do nothing is beyond me. Lee Clark stood for 90mins

 

[Seasider78]

Yes but to sit in the dugout for 80 mins and seem to do nothing is beyond me. Lee Clark stood for 90mins

Is that what it has come to with our fans a manager just needs to stand up to avoid criticism. Every manager has their own style and he has already said he is not someone who will be parading about waving his hands about.

 

[portslade seagull]

We still have two weeks

Who knows what happens between now and next Saturday? Maybe we'll bring in some players, and then again until the end of the month...By all means get angry or whatever if we haven't added decent reinforcements by the end of August, but how about some positivity. The club aren't just sitting there doing nothing, we tried signing Ward a few days back but HE didn't come for the medical. Not the club's fault.

The amount of anger and pissyness on this board is getting a bit ridiculous.

Please remove your head from your backside trouble is looming panic buys on the last day do not work we should have had them in weeks ago for pre season

 

[portslade seagull]

You think the club are just sitting there with their fingers up their arses?

They can't reach their arses due to the piles of money they are sitting on

 

[Luke93]

Something needs to happen. Loads of recruits needed, at least 4. It's the quality of those recruits which will shape our season.

 

[algie]

i did just make that stat up, i didnt think anyone would bother to check! Good skills.

I didn't need to look it up. I remember Palace losing the first few games of that season very well. I thought it was four but it was three. I remember ribbing them.