They're back home.

[smudge]

This might be a bit controversial, but as the 15 military personel return home I must admit that I'm a bit embarrassed by the whole episode.
I don't like the way they were taken so easily. I don't like seeing them seeming so relaxed & smiling whilst having food & drinks served to them. I don't like the way they stood & "admitted" to wrongdoing. I didn't like seeing them shaking hands with the Iranian president & thanking him for his kindness! It's just embarrassing, in my opinion of course.

All headline news while more of our troops die in Iraq; (probably a whole column inch somewhere tomorrow).

If we weren't a joke in the eyes of some countries before this; we bloody are now.

 

[Braders]

mate we literally just covered this

(better then saying the F word isn't it)

 

[smudge]

Sorry!

 

[MOWTCHOPS]

This might be a bit controversial, but as the 15 military personel return home I must admit that I'm a bit embarrassed by the whole episode.
I don't like the way they were taken so easily. I don't like seeing them seeming so relaxed & smiling whilst having food & drinks served to them. I don't like the way they stood & "admitted" to wrongdoing. I didn't like seeing them shaking hands with the Iranian president & thanking him for his kindness! It's just embarrassing, in my opinion of course.

All headline news while more of our troops die in Iraq; (probably a whole column inch somewhere tomorrow).

If we weren't a joke in the eyes of some countries before this; we bloody are now.

Your a navy lad Smudge, how did they get them so easily ??

 

[smudge]

Re: Re: They're back home.

Your a navy lad Smudge, how did they get them so easily ??

Ex-Navy mate! f*** knows!

Hampshire Seagulls will probably give a better answer to that. As for me, like I say I just find it all embarrassing. I was in Pompey last night visiting friends & we were talking about it & most lads still in the mob feel the same way.

 

[London Calling]

Just seen the pics, Marines? It looks like a school outing!

 

[Hampden Park]

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alright smurf
have to agree with you shipwreck, seemed a little too easy for them to be took. suppose being heavily outnumbered and out-gunned didnt help. mind you matelots with guns =
think the bootnecks will be feeling a little
where was the helo? wafu's

 

[smudge]

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alright smurf
have to agree with you shipwreck, seemed a little too easy for them to be took. suppose being heavily outnumbered and out-gunned didnt help. mind you matelots with guns =
think the bootnecks will be feeling a little
where was the helo? wafu's

Wouldn't of happened in your day Foxy!

(Nobody needs an RO as a mate in these days of e-mail!)

 

[Hampden Park]

Wouldn't of happened in your day Foxy!

(Nobody needs an RO as a mate in these days of e-mail!)

no your right there m8y (until you lose power to your pc that is )

no it wouldnt of happened in my day
cheeky sprog

 

[Dick Knights Mumm]

It was never worth losing your life for.

 

[MOWTCHOPS]

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alright smurf
have to agree with you shipwreck, seemed a little too easy for them to be took. suppose being heavily outnumbered and out-gunned didnt help. mind you matelots with guns =
think the bootnecks will be feeling a little
where was the helo? wafu's

Can a dingy full of Arabs really out-gun a 42 ?

 

[HampshireSeagulls]

This might be a bit controversial, but as the 15 military personel return home I must admit that I'm a bit embarrassed by the whole episode.
I don't like the way they were taken so easily. I don't like seeing them seeming so relaxed & smiling whilst having food & drinks served to them. I don't like the way they stood & "admitted" to wrongdoing. I didn't like seeing them shaking hands with the Iranian president & thanking him for his kindness! It's just embarrassing, in my opinion of course.

All headline news while more of our troops die in Iraq; (probably a whole column inch somewhere tomorrow).

If we weren't a joke in the eyes of some countries before this; we bloody are now.

I was an instructor on the Conduct After Capture course, now called SERE to fall in line with the Yanks (Survival, Evasion, Resistance, Escape). Considering the the matelots have probably never had a briefing on how to conduct themselves, and Royal will have completed the 2 day course, they did the best that they could reasonably be expected to do. Isolated, being told to repeat lies under duress, produce letters under the same conditions, with no real understanding of how it was being played out at home, what information was being ascribed to them in the world media, they did the best they could. The real problems here are:

Women in the front line. Maybe they can do the job, but are we really ready for the enemy to use them against us when they are captured?

The ease of capture, considering that a helo would have been on task.

The inquiry will be interesting.

 

[OzMike]

Did they get the boats weaponry and hi tech equipment back

What happened to, name, rank and serial number.

 

[Hampden Park]

Can a dingy full of Arabs really out-gun a 42 ?

looks that way

 

[Lethargic]

Although I generally agree with your sentiment. This 'war' is simple not that straight forward it's a complete mess and is more of a political battlefield than a traditional one. If I was still serving I think I would be totally disillussioned fighting this 'war', unless of cause I was being offered a share incentive scheme for the oil pipline that will eventually come.

We are fighting this battle as the righteous saviours of democracy (!) and therefore cannot be seen to step over the boundaries (polically and terratorially). If we had taken any action against Iran we would simple descend into more of a mess and more innocent bloodshed.