[TV] The Truth

[Mo Gosfield]

Who to believe...

I find it highly unlikely that they wouldn't have given her any instruction on how to conduct oneself.

Highly!

https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-life/royals/meghans-claims-about-royal-wedding-dismissed-as-complete-lies/news-story/e17594077d7aadd110fbec37e8589c00

Very highly.....she has chosen to do things differently. She knew she had to divide the two brothers. She knew she had to find an opportunity to play the race card. She knew she had to garner sympathy on the other side of the pond. It is all to create a persona and complete financial independence, to ensure that when the time comes for her and Harry to go their separate ways, she will end up extremely comfortable.

 

[Greg Bobkin]

Who to believe...

I find it highly unlikely that they wouldn't have given her any instruction on how to conduct oneself.

Highly!

https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-life/royals/meghans-claims-about-royal-wedding-dismissed-as-complete-lies/news-story/e17594077d7aadd110fbec37e8589c00

Ah, The Sun. That well-known and highly respected oracle of thoroughly researched, balanced and informative journalism.

 

[crodonilson]

Just caught the trailer for volume 2 of the truth and I think it's about to get very spicy.

Harry said they lied to protect his brother.

 

[crodonilson]

 

[nicko31]

Can see Netflix are going to get a good return on their investment...

 

[BadFish]

Watching the second episode.

They both seem like decent people. Obviously this has been PRed to the nth degree,

ON the other hand the press are scum.

What a f***ing load of shit they have had to put up with. Shame on the gutter press and all those that encourage them.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Watching the second episode.

They both seem like decent people. Obviously this has been PRed to the nth degree,

ON the other hand the press are scum.

What a f***ing load of shit they have had to put up with. Shame on the gutter press and all those that encourage them.

Perfect examples this morning. Perfect is the wrong word but used metaphorically.



Jeremy Clarkson




Just to add that the Queen Consort invited several people to a private lunch with her including Piers Morgan and Jeremy Clarkson. Make of that, what you will.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

For those who think the Duchess forced Harry out of the family to California should watch this. There were credible death threats.

EXCLUSIVE: Meghan Markle faced credible threats to her life, says former head of counter terrorism

Neil Basu was in charge of some of Britain's biggest policing operations of the last decade.

www.channel4.com

 

[BadFish]

Perfect examples this morning. Perfect is the wrong word but used metaphorically.



Jeremy Clarkson




Just to add that the Queen Consort invited several people to a private lunch with her including Piers Morgan and Jeremy Clarkson. Make of that, what you will.

I saw that Clarkson tweet earlier. I can't help but wonder if there is more context to it. If not it is outrageous. Pathetic snowflakery to have such strong hatred about someone he doesn't know. As I said earlier on on this thread people who hold such strong opinions based on so much second-hand information need to give their heads a wobble.

Gossip and tittle tattle.

 

[Triggaaar]

Because hanging on to their Royal titles and being controversial is one thing that can make them money, possibly.

Are they short of money then? Should we do a whip-round?

 

[Thunder Bolt]

I saw that Clarkson tweet earlier. I can't help but wonder if there is more context to it. If not it is outrageous. Pathetic snowflakery to have such strong hatred about someone he doesn't know. As I said earlier on on this thread people who hold such strong opinions based on so much second-hand information need to give their heads a wobble.

Gossip and tittle tattle.

Emily Clarkson, has posted on Instagram, denouncing her father’s article.

 

[BadFish]

Emily Clarkson, has posted on Instagram, denouncing her father’s article.

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Good for her. It must be hard to be a decent human being with such an oaf as a father. Although he isn't subtle so they probably realised from a young age.

I also have the sneaking suspicion that his oafishness is a carefully curated public persona. One that has served him well of course but perhaps the family are spared it at home.

 

[dsr-burnley]

There's good reason to comp[alin about Clarkson's comments, but the three I have seen all base their complaint around the fact that Meghan is a woman. Why? Why, in today's society, shouldn't Meghan be treated as a person in her own right, and Emily Clarkson and others should call out vile criticism against people in general -not just against women?

For the record, I agree it's a very unpleasant tweet. It's as vile as many of those against Margaret Thatcher, who also was thoroughly abused (even when suffering from dementia), although I don't recall her getting quite as much support from the feminists lobby!

 

[nicko31]

Emily Clarkson, has posted on Instagram, denouncing her father’s article.

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Clarkson has engaged in hate speech. No other word for it

Some admission he overstepped the mark, but falls short of an apology

 

[Thunder Bolt]

There's good reason to comp[alin about Clarkson's comments, but the three I have seen all base their complaint around the fact that Meghan is a woman. Why? Why, in today's society, shouldn't Meghan be treated as a person in her own right, and Emily Clarkson and others should call out vile criticism against people in general -not just against women?

For the record, I agree it's a very unpleasant tweet. It's as vile as many of those against Margaret Thatcher, who also was thoroughly abused (even when suffering from dementia), although I don't recall her getting quite as much support from the feminists lobby!

I agree Margaret Thatcher got abuse, which was wrong, but it was for her actions rather than because she was a woman. There is a difference.
I don't recall anyone wanting to humiliate her by wishing her to be paraded naked through the streets, with excrement being thrown at her.

That isn't just misogyny but also a twisted violent sexual fantasy. As a woman, it makes me feel very uncomfortable, and I am no feminist.

 

[Greg Bobkin]

There's good reason to comp[alin about Clarkson's comments, but the three I have seen all base their complaint around the fact that Meghan is a woman. Why? Why, in today's society, shouldn't Meghan be treated as a person in her own right, and Emily Clarkson and others should call out vile criticism against people in general -not just against women?

For the record, I agree it's a very unpleasant tweet. It's as vile as many of those against Margaret Thatcher, who also was thoroughly abused (even when suffering from dementia), although I don't recall her getting quite as much support from the feminists lobby!

If it makes you feel better, I'd think he was JUST as much of a bellend if he'd said it about Harry

But he wouldn't would he? Clarkson specifically picked on three females for a reason. And that's the point – in 'today's society', women AREN'T treated the same as men. Still. Look at the difference in wages, the misogynistic memes that go around, or even the views around women's football. That's not equality or being treated in their own right.

Clarkson knew EXACTLY what he was doing – does he have a DVD or Grand Tour special coming out soon? – and he won't ever change. Ironically, he and his enemy Piers Moron are two of a kind in that respect. Making something that is nothing to do with them all about them!

 

[BadFish]

If it makes you feel better, I'd think he was JUST as much of a bellend if he'd said it about Harry

But he wouldn't would he? Clarkson specifically picked on three females for a reason. And that's the point – in 'today's society', women AREN'T treated the same as men. Still. Look at the difference in wages, the misogynistic memes that go around, or even the views around women's football. That's not equality or being treated in their own right.

Clarkson knew EXACTLY what he was doing – does he have a DVD or Grand Tour special coming out soon? – and he won't ever change. Ironically, he and his enemy Piers Moron are two of a kind in that respect. Making something that is nothing to do with them all about them!

This is right Clarkson made it specifically about women so that is how it is received. Let's not pretend for a second that the fact that he used a famous game of thrones scene which featured a woman for his weird little titillating fantasy isn't important. As he name checked two other women in his rant against a woman.

If he wanted to direct his anger and hatred at 'people' he would have done. The fact he didn't speaks volumes.

The bloke is a monumental bellend. Quite an entertaining one but a bellend none the less.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

If it makes you feel better, I'd think he was JUST as much of a bellend if he'd said it
Clarkson knew EXACTLY what he was doing – does he have a DVD or Grand Tour special coming out soon? – and he won't ever change. Ironically, he and his enemy Piers Moron are two of a kind in that respect. Making something that is nothing to do with them all about them!

Talking of those two, both were at a Christmas lunch hosted by the Queen Consort last week.
Clarkson has been criticised widely, but not a word of support for the Duchess from the palace.

 

[Zeberdi]

That isn't just misogyny but also a twisted violent sexual fantasy. As a woman, it makes me feel very uncomfortable, and I am no feminist.

It’s violent misogyny certainly - but no more about sex than rape is about sex imo - the man is a sick creep who has violent tendencies to women and men and a history of physical and verbal abuse - which is why he was dropped by the BBC

Piers Moron are two of a kind in that respect. Making something that is nothing to do with them all about them!

Another completely, egocentric, sexist tool who can’t cope with attractive, clever women, especially when they ghost him

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

Another completely, egocentric, sexist tool who can’t cope with attractive, clever women, especially when they ghost him

But that's what she is.

Everything about this relationship has been to promote her in the public eye for maximum exposure.

Everything done to paint her as the victim and promote her manufactured brand.

Why wouldn't people be cynical of her?