[TV] The Traitors - BBC

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ROSM

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I can't see Jaz or Zack being up for banishment - they seem a bit clued up. It was Paul who was highlighting Jaz and I think that will act in Jaz's favour. Murder, yes; banishment, no.

I think Ross has a target on his back though.
If Ross fell into a barrel of boobs he would still come up sucking his thumb

Jaz was monumentally poor at the round table. People may put 2+2=5 and say he defended Miles. Dropped stuff about Paul but never acted so therefore he must be a traitor.

Zack just annoys everybody so they will banish him just to avoid the drama
 




Triggaaar

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Oct 24, 2005
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I’m sorry but Paul was one of the most telegraphed traitors of all time. Amazed he lasted so long.

To us it looked obvious (I knew from the moment he was announced as a traitor in episode 1), but the fact that it took others so long says that it wasn't.

I’m in to Harry but I think he’s gone in two footed there and the group will suspect his perfectly accurate recall.
Agreed, he went in to way too much detail about how Paul put himself in the dungeon believing he'd be saved by the group.

Andrew needs to remember the dungeon and that there were two traitors in there already, and it'd make no sense for there to be a third (if Meghan had been saved, they'd have been stuffed). But Andrew doesn't seem to be very bright.
 


Triggaaar

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Season 1 ... all the cast had talent representation so just broke the “reality” side of it.

Really? I know Maddy had done some acting (like one minutes worth as a homeless person on the street) and Alex was a presenter, but they weren't all like that were they?
 


Triggaaar

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Can we all agree that Ross is an irritating, thick dork, desperately using his mum double-act to stay relevant to the audience, who frankly don't care?
I did like it when they were in the car and Paul claimed Diane was his mum, and he said no she was my mum, and he managed to get a wink to the camera right in front of them without being caught
 


Triggaaar

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So if you were Harry how would you play this from here? Keep Andrew close, as two traitors on final day will be key. Be prepared to split the money.

That's what I'd do. Throw you're fellow traitor under the bus and I imagine he'd take you down with him.


Pick off some of the quiet ones. Focus on one person to banish each day. Dont lead the conversation of if you do, be prepared to switch at the round table when you see where the wind is blowing amd pretend you were convinved by others arguments.

I wouldn't pick off the quiet ones, I'd get rid of Jas and Zack who are capable of working it out. I'd follow the heard at the round table, because if you go in strong on someone, you'll obviously be wrong.


Jaz, zach and now ross should be favourites for banishment.

Only because so many of them are thick. With the debate Zack was having with Paul in the day, it's basically impossible for Zack to be a traitor. Traitors don't debate face to face about whether one of them is a traitor, as they'd both know they both are, it makes no sense.



Molly, Evie are relatively safe (besides killing Molly will like being the guy who shot Bambi's mum).

Jasmine is one I'm unsure about.

Charlotte and Charlie are both ripe for murdering
Nah, murder the brains.
 




ROSM

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I wouldn't pick off the quiet ones, I'd get rid of Jas and Zack who are capable of working it out. I'd follow the heard at the round table, because if you go in strong on someone, you'll obviously be wrongwrong
I hadnt thought of that. Wonder if someone will put that forward?
 


Loadicus Trux

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The Faithful were performing so badly, the organisers have just handed them two Traitors, and possibly a third, with Harry's specific dungeon recollection.
 


Simster

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Jul 7, 2003
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The Faithful were performing so badly, the organisers have just handed them two Traitors, and possibly a third, with Harry's specific dungeon recollection.
If anyone accuses Harry because of this, he'll surely just deflect it to the likes of Jaz by saying he just kept his powder dry until the evidence was damning enough that he spoke his mind. By contrast, Jaz has caused himself a problem by snidely sniping at Paul to different people throughout the last two weeks in the day time but *never* being forthright enough to accuse him at the round table until he was just one of the sheep.


Zach is annoying everyone and has been from the start, but as @Triggaaar suggests, he is surely amongst the safest players from banishment remaining. As such, the Traitors would do well to get rid of him. There's only a downside for them in allowing him to remain in the game.
 




GloryDays

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To us it looked obvious (I knew from the moment he was announced as a traitor in episode 1), but the fact that it took others so long says that it wasn't.


Agreed, he went in to way too much detail about how Paul put himself in the dungeon believing he'd be saved by the group.

Andrew needs to remember the dungeon and that there were two traitors in there already, and it'd make no sense for there to be a third (if Meghan had been saved, they'd have been stuffed). But Andrew doesn't seem to be very bright.
Lol. Poor Andrew. I love how normal he was trying to be at breakfast.
 


stewart12

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Hotchilidog

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Paul had to go, and he went at just the right time as the most obvious Traitor is out. Now we are back to the wild accusation throwing and full on suspicion that makes this show so compelling. For the first time, like others, I thought Harry may have overplayed his hand last night, maybe some over-confidence is diluting his game. I think Andrew may prove to be a more tricky traitor than he is being given credit for and I can see him selling Harry out at the first opportunity.

Jaz, Zack and Ross are the diversions that should keep the traitors in play for a couple more episodes. Cracking TV!
 




GloryDays

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Really? I know Maddy had done some acting (like one minutes worth as a homeless person on the street) and Alex was a presenter, but they weren't all like that were they?
BMX Matt is a model at a sports agency for sure.

The magician also has talent rep, as did the least funny comedian of all time.

I understand for it to have to click as a series with viewers they want to control the game a bit and not risk the franchise. BBC is a big customer. But I think they could have just recruited more civvies where as it feels like they just sent briefs out to a number of model, acting and PR agencies. I also read somewhere that the boyfriend and girlfriend reveal was scene for scene of the Dutch season (original).

Like I say, S2 is more regular. I was pathetic enough to trawl through most ppls instagrams and only a few have rep this time which suggests a more organic approach / less casting, more auditioning public.

Way too much in S1 was convenient and that was my only gripe with it. Much better now, Particularly less shield planting (last person in the room got the shield etc).

Really enjoying it. #teamjaz
 


GloryDays

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yeh he doesn't have great poker face to be honest
What was refreshing was in the turret he basically told them how f***ed he felt once he saw Paul was a traitor. Andrew 100% relieved Paul has gone.

Andrew IMO isn’t good enough to win it. he’ll buckle and give it away (“What does recruited mean?”) or be chucked under the bus, but I also think Harry will get sniffed out.

A traitor may well win it, but it could be neither of the ones there atm. Zach for instance could be recruited and come out top of the pile since he isn’t really making friends anyway and could happily shaft the lot of them.
 






Mellotron

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Jul 2, 2008
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Interesting note that all 3 banished traitors have effectively been "found" by other traitors so far.

The Faithful have been pretty rubbish, by and large.
 


ROSM

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Post recruitment Andrew looks like a dog being asked to learn how to play chess.
Thats a new spin off. Put Ross and Andrew on celebrity race across the world. They wont find their way out of the hotel room
 




Gabbiano

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Interesting note that all 3 banished traitors have effectively been "found" by other traitors so far.

The Faithful have been pretty rubbish, by and large.
Well in all three cases they saw the opportunity to lead the pile on for people where there was already suspicion.
 




Mellotron

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Jul 2, 2008
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Well in all three cases they saw the opportunity to lead the pile on for people where there was already suspicion.
But it still took them leading for it to happen. I think Ash would've been gone whatever, she was rubbish, but they really needed help finding Miles and especially Paul.
 


Audax

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Aug 3, 2015
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Harry had played it absolutely perfect until last night at the round table. Fair play to Paul - he could have made Harry's situation much tougher with how he responded.

Harry just went into far too much detail in his takedown of Paul. He really didn't need to go for the full tackle on that one. He should have just set back and let the conversation play out a little more first, throw the dungeon reminder in there, and then just let it play out. I think despite the heat Jaz took, Paul was always going to be gone last night. Will be interesting to see if any of the remaining Faithful's cotton on to Harry's over-played takedown or if he gets a free pass in the same way Paul was given multiple free passes earlier on.
 


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