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The Royal Family



Aseros

Banned
Jun 6, 2011
1,382
Do you agree with having a Royal Family in Britain? Reasons for your answer please!

I am in the mind that we should have a royal family, they give us a sense of identity and I cannot stand people that use the reason 'they leach' when quite clearly they work fairly hard for their money and repair it many times over.

Anyway,

GO!
 




brunswick

New member
Aug 13, 2004
2,920
lol.....let the binfest begin.

1) the other day the queen did a speech about "austerity" (real speak: poverty) whilst wearing a million pounds worth of crown.

2) own trillions of pounds of assets and do nothing to help anyone. world poverty could be over tomorrow.

3) invites murdering dictators to lunch.

4) killed off diana.

cannot believe you said they work hard for their money, ....and give identity? explain how and what benefits this gives?

get rid, waste of space and time, but distracts ppl from real issues by having kate on the front cover every day is a slut dress.
 




Aseros

Banned
Jun 6, 2011
1,382
2) own trillions of pounds of assets and do nothing to help anyone. world poverty could be over tomorrow.

The Royal Family cannot legally sell these assets, and therefore it doesn't matter about them, they will never go toward ending poverty. If you are talking about poverty in foreign countries then they already get enough money from us. It's just that the system for distributing it isn't fair. World Poverty could be over today if there was fair distribution of the money provided.

No proof that she murdered Diana, she was quiet for a while as there was no real established protocol to follow, she had been divorced from Charles for years. Once she saw the outpouring of grief that is when the Queen made a statement regarding the death. I mean, at that point Diana wasn't part of the Royal Family so why should it be up to the Queen to say something?
 


Rugrat

Well-known member
Mar 13, 2011
10,224
Seaford
Yes ... a big pull for tourism and it's still something other countries hold is awe and helps us from being wiped off the map.

The Queen had done a great job imo ... I might change my views once Charlie takes over, dunno

On the negative once it gets beyond the top 2 or 3 then there's way too many hangers on that we're paying for and contribute bugger all
 




bravohotelalpha

Well-known member
Jan 23, 2011
2,642
Good Old Sussex By The Sea
It is very good for international relations.

The queen God-bless-her hasn't stopped working throughout her 50 years as monarch. She must suffer from the aches and pains of any other elderly person but she still carries on working, always forcing a smile. You may not agree with the monarchy but you have to accept the Queen has been such an amazing & important woman.

I do agree with you. Not a big fan of Charles but he does get stuck in to lots of important issues. William and harry are just great and I have every faith they will continue to work hard and do us proud. Btw lizzy has been our queen 60 years (diamond jubilee)
 


Window Licker

New member
May 17, 2012
110
I think it's important to have a monarchy. Who would be the real "Head" of our country if she wasn't there? David Cameron? I prefer having the queen there personally. She might have a backseat role in the day to day running of the country but she also has the power to dissolve parliament. So it's like a backup plan should the PM go Hitler on us. I don't think we should get rid of them, personally, I think they should have more say in the running of the UK. There's a fine line between that and a dictatorship, though!
 


Woodchip

It's all about the bikes
Aug 28, 2004
14,460
Shaky Town, NZ
Yes ... a big pull for tourism and it's still something other countries hold is awe and helps us from being wiped off the map.

The Queen had done a great job imo ... I might change my views once Charlie takes over, dunno

On the negative once it gets beyond the top 2 or 3 then there's way too many hangers on that we're paying for and contribute bugger all

This
 




Colossal Squid

Returning video tapes
Feb 11, 2010
4,906
Under the sea
I like that we have an unelected monarch as head of state, as she is for several other nations across the globe. It's embarrassing enough having Cameron as PM, but to have a politician as head of state too would be asking for trouble. I don't think it's any coincidence that some of the most stable and economically strong countries of the world are constitutional monarchies (Norway, Denmark, Sweden, Belgium, Luxembourg and Japan for example).

The Queen allows Britain to have a non political representation across the globe.
 




bravohotelalpha

Well-known member
Jan 23, 2011
2,642
Good Old Sussex By The Sea
Yes ... a big pull for tourism and it's still something other countries hold is awe and helps us from being wiped off the map.

The Queen had done a great job imo ... I might change my views once Charlie takes over, dunno

On the negative once it gets beyond the top 2 or 3 then there's way too many hangers on that we're paying for and contribute bugger all

I dont believe Charles will be taking over but we can mull over that one another day ....
 




brightonlass2009

Sports sports sports!
I think a royal family is a good thing. No matter what people say they do bring in tourism. Countries like America adore the fact we have a royal family, and they love going to see buckingham palace and the like. Also it is good for international relations as we'd be able to better relate to other countries still with monarchies. People moan about how expensive they are, but a president would cost just as much with security etc. Etc.

Although saying that I think people like Andrew and Edward should actually work for their money rather than just scrounge
 


Lady Whistledown

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 7, 2003
47,639
Brunswick: I'm more than prepared to accept your views on the first three points, even I think they're a bit over simplistic (solve world poverty by getting rid of the Queen??). But the whole Diana conspiracy thing is a total embarrassment, with no foundation whatsoever, only believed by the sort of people who question absolutely everything anyone ever says to them in life. Or the readers of the Daily Express.

FFS, if you were going to slot her, there are a million easier, more discreet, and more-likely-to-be-successful ways of doing it than by ramming an armour plated Mercedes with a Fiat Uno, especially one pursued by witnesses, one containing witnesses, and in a highly public place :facepalm:
 


Window Licker

New member
May 17, 2012
110
FFS, if you were going to slot her, there are a million easier, more discreet, and more-likely-to-be-successful ways of doing it than by ramming an armour plated Mercedes with a Fiat Uno, especially one pursued by witnesses, one containing witnesses, and in a highly public place :facepalm:

Or was it the perfect crime? I'd have done it in Roswell.
 






Doc Lynam

I hate the Daily Mail
Jun 19, 2011
7,347
Absolutely corrosive to our society and politics, "Queen" being head of the church and state. The "divine right" and all that bollocks, keeps the division of class and antiquated, turgid systems legitimate. Also I dont think a bunch of Germans or anyone else shouldn't be entitled to free money in the form of taxes or that the Prince of Wales should own any land let alone being one of the largest landowners in the country. Utter bollocks the whole thing. Times have moved on but old money hasn't and there are gimps in this country that back them up with blind faith hiding behind the word "tradition" or "its good for tourism." Get a bloody mouse over here it works just as well.
 
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bravohotelalpha

Well-known member
Jan 23, 2011
2,642
Good Old Sussex By The Sea
Absolutely corrosive to our society and politics, "Queen" being head of the church and state. The "divine right" and all that bollocks, keeps the division of class and antiquated, turgid systems legitimate. Also I dont think a bunch of Germans or anyone else shouldn't be entitled to free money in the form of taxes or that the Prince of Wales should own any land let alone being one of the largest landowners in the country. Utter bollocks the whole thing. Times have moved on but old money hasn't and there are gimps in this country that back them up with blind faith hiding behind the word "tradition" or "its good for tourism." Get a bloody mouse over here it works just as well.

So we won't hold our breath waiting for your diamond jubilee portrait of her Maj then ????
 






beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
36,019
2) own trillions of pounds of assets and do nothing to help anyone. world poverty could be over tomorrow.

oh go on then. where exactly do you think these £trillion assests are? the crown estate amounts to under £10billion, but is held by the state. her personal wealth is a mere (relative) couple hundred million. so wheres the other £989.75 billion? and austerity does not mean poverty in any speak.

as for the royals, its a difficult one. in principle it doesnt seem "fair" but when applied properly theres alot of merit, looks to the long term and the whole nation not the short termism and special interests of elected politians. itcomes down to what powers they have and the way they chose to conduct themselves. ours is little more than a figurehead, a head of state. the current incumbant has done a sterling job, so much so that republicans in far off colonies have stated they wouldnt call for abolishion while ERII is on the throne. others in the past have not been so great.

in balance you wouldnt invent now it if it didnt exist, but it works as it is, so let it be.
 


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