[Albion] The Potter in/out thread

[Justice]

Potter's bad runs were not as bad as the last few months of this season under RDZ where we were genuinely shocking in most games, even though we picked up a couple of scrappy wins.

Performances in the Potter bad runs were generally good and at least we created multiple chances to hit the woodwork etc.

Suppose it depends if you see the manager directly responsible for really bad finishing or not.


Not obsessed with it, just a useful way of showing we actually played well.

Bad results don't necessarily make a bad manager/team (e.g. Klopp losing 6 home PL games in a row).

TB knew this and as always it worked out for him by sticking with Potter.

Potters bad runs was with an amazing squad, RDZ had injuries and a midfield sold off.

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

Good manager, but no, he’s a prick

 

[US Seagull]

Just for fun, I asked AI to draft an announcement for me...

Press Release

For Immediate Release

Graham Potter Returns as Brighton & Hove Albion Manager

Brighton, May 24, 2024 — Brighton & Hove Albion Football Club is delighted to announce the return of Graham Potter as the team’s manager. The English coach, known for his tactical acumen and progressive football philosophy, has signed a four-year contract, marking his second tenure at the Amex Stadium.

Potter previously managed Swansea City in the Championship, where he guided them to a commendable 10th-placed finish. His innovative approach to the game and commitment to youth development caught the attention of Brighton’s board.

Speaking about his return, Potter said, “Brighton is a club with immense potential. I am honored to be back and excited to build on the foundation laid during my previous stint. The fans’ passion and the club’s vision align perfectly.”

Brighton chairman Tony Bloom expressed his confidence in Potter: “Graham’s footballing philosophy resonates with our long-term goals. His ability to nurture young talent and play attractive football makes him the ideal fit.”

Potter will be joined by his trusted backroom staff, including Billy Reid, Bjorn Hamberg, and Kyle Macaulay. Together, they aim to consolidate Brighton’s position in the Premier League and continue their upward trajectory.

Welcome back, Graham Potter!

For media inquiries, please contact:

Damn...AI isn't fun anymore

 

[Krafty]

De Zerbi’s longest winless run - 6 games
Potter’s longest winless run - 12 games

One of those managers has the potential to relegate a club because they can’t turn results around quickly enough.

I don’t remember Potter relegating Brighton?

 

[MJsGhost]

I would be extremely surprised if Tony Bloom is the kind of fella who would give you a second chance to screw him over.

Never going to happen.

The Matthew Benham example suggests this is very much true.

However, what is up for debate is whether or not TB feels he was screwed over by Potter.

The timing may have been rubbish, but I don't think that Tony feels screwed over by Potter. He doesn't stand in the way of players or staff moving on to a bigger club / better paid opportunity as long as the club gets what is market value or contractually due.
With RdZ quickly installed, I reckon Bloom felt like he'd been done a favour, with £20m+ banked and an exciting new manager on board.

Only a few will know for sure how he feels about it, but you can bet your bottom dollar that if (IF!) Potter is hired, it means that Bloom did not feel screwed over when GPott left.

 

[Behind Enemy Lines]

Good manager, but no, he’s a prick

How many times have you met him?

 

[jonny.rainbow]

Just for balance...and the responses...

One manager tool over a team in 17th place in the table and left it in 4th
The other took over a team in 4th and left it in 11th

One manager took over a club in the close season and was provided with a squad strengthened by £60 million worth of players and Alexis McAllister’s loan ending and only managed to finish two places higher (15th) than the previous season. He also benefitted from a 3 month pause to the season that helped end a 10 game winless streak that showed no signs of ending otherwise.

The other manager took over mid-season and utilised the squad at his disposal (Mitoma never started a league game under Potter) with no significant investment and the disruption of a Winter World Cup and a managed to improve the league placing from the previous season with the same squad by three places (6th) and qualify the club for Europe.

 

[Poyningsgull]

Yet it's 63% NO to Potter on the poll?

That's 63% of feck all on the grander scale

 

[jonny.rainbow]

Potter's bad runs were not as bad as the last few months of this season under RDZ where we were genuinely shocking in most games, even though we picked up a couple of scrappy wins.

Performances in the Potter bad runs were generally good and at least we created multiple chances to hit the woodwork etc.

Suppose it depends if you see the manager directly responsible for really bad finishing or not.


Not obsessed with it, just a useful way of showing we actually played well.

Bad results don't necessarily make a bad manager/team (e.g. Klopp losing 6 home PL games in a row).

TB knew this and as always it worked out for him by sticking with Potter.

Which of Potter’s bad runs are you referring to?

The ten game winless one that led up to lockdown in his first season?

The ten game winless run in the 2020-21 season where we couldn’t beat eventually relegated Fulham and Sheffield United and drew with Newport in the Fa Cup?

The twelve game winless run pre-Christmas followed by a six game losing streak in his glorious 2021-22 campaign that was only ended when he finally took a chance and picked Caicedo instead of Alzate and Moder? (Though he was forced into this by injury so any credit afforded to Potter is highly questionable)

All of those runs were terrible and the football was largely dull. De Zerbi had his flaws but our team played much more exciting football and were much less likely to go on streaks of poor form than under Potter.

Quite why anyone would want him back is beyond me.

 

[jonny.rainbow]

I don’t remember Potter relegating Brighton?

I don’t remember Hyypia relegating Brighton.

Would anyone like him back in charge?

 

[tstanbur]

Which of Potter’s bad runs are you referring to?

The ten game winless one that led up to lockdown in his first season?

The ten game winless run in the 2020-21 season where we couldn’t beat eventually relegated Fulham and Sheffield United and drew with Newport in the Fa Cup?

The twelve game winless run pre-Christmas followed by a six game losing streak in his glorious 2021-22 campaign that was only ended when he finally took a chance and picked Caicedo instead of Alzate and Moder? (Though he was forced into this by injury so any credit afforded to Potter is highly questionable)

All of those runs were terrible and the football was largely dull. De Zerbi had his flaws but our team played much more exciting football and were much less likely to go on streaks of poor form than under Potter.

Quite why anyone would want him back is beyond me.

I’ve never said I want him back although it would be very amusing to see the reaction of some.

All these “bad run” arguments are a load of bollocks anyway. The facts are he took over when we were on the verge of relegation and left us in 4th place playing brilliant football. All managers and teams have blips over certain periods of time.

Anyone who doesn’t think he did a very good job isn’t worth arguing with.

If you bought some shares and doubled your money in three years would you constantly moan about the periods your investment was at a loss?

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

How many times have you met him?

Press conferences are enough for me.

If he conducts himself in a public arena like he has done, (swearing at Chelsea to carry favour), doesn’t say a lot about him as an individual.

As per my post, doesn’t mean he’s not a good coach or manager, but a prick for me…

 

[Sirnormangall]

Potter changed our style of play for the better. It was much more entertaining than watching Hughton’s teams. He knows most of our squad, is experienced in the Prem, could hit the road running and so he probably ticks more boxes than other rumoured candidates. But if I had the opportunity to remarry my first wife after she’d walked out on me, would I? No way - but good business decisions need to be removed from all the emotional stuff. Which is a long explanation to say I’m on the fence.

 

[Pliny the Gull]

Luv to know who the players would chose in this merry go round.
Dunky, call up a zoom call !

 

[Behind Enemy Lines]

Press conferences are enough for me.

If he conducts himself in a public arena like he has done, (swearing at Chelsea to carry favour), doesn’t say a lot about him as an individual.

As per my post, doesn’t mean he’s not a good coach or manager, but a prick for me…

What was wrong with his press conferences? If anything they were non descript and rather dull. Difficult to take offence at.
I understand many fans were upset when he left due to the speed and taking Bruno and the family dog etc but isn't it time to move on?
We were 4th when he left, playing lovely stuff and the goals were flying in.
We could do a lot worse.

 

[Kosh]

What was wrong with his press conferences? If anything they were non descript and rather dull. Difficult to take offence at.
I understand many fans were upset when he left due to the speed and taking Bruno and the family dog etc but isn't it time to move on?
We were 4th when he left, playing lovely stuff and the goals were flying in.
We could do a lot worse.

For the love of all that SUCKS … I literally can’t take ANYMORE of this revisionist BS.

It’s NOT going to happen, it really isnt.

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

What was wrong with his press conferences? If anything they were non descript and rather dull. Difficult to take offence at.
I understand many fans were upset when he left due to the speed and taking Bruno and the family dog etc but isn't it time to move on?
We were 4th when he left, playing lovely stuff and the goals were flying in.
We could do a lot worse.

Just know your history (sorry, couldn’t resist).
Never said the football wasn’t good, just that I don’t like him…..

We could do worse, but given based on the NSC straw poll it will split the fanbase.
I don’t think that’s a good thing, for a new manager.

I don’t want him back.

 

[Pevenseagull]

Leeds Poly twat.

 

[Terry Butcher Tribute Act]

f***ing hell. Another reason I don't want him back is because there is ALREADY a debate about xG and he's not even in a job yet

 

[prawnsarnies]

A pointless thread, man up he's gone with the rest of the rats, good riddance to the lot of em.