The police are effing bastards ... probably

[goldstone]

This morning about 12.00 noon an unmarked police stopped with lights flashing behind a car on the southbound M23 between Crawley and Pease Pottage.

What f***ing bastard police officer is going to give someone a speeding ticket on Xmas morning? The road was half empty and I don't care how fast the driver was going, you don't give speeding tickets on Xmas morning. Get a life you ****.

Now it is of course possible that he stopped the driver, warned him he was driving too fast, told him to slow down in future, wished him Merry Xmas, and sent him on his way.

The problem with this scenario is:
a) it completely spoils my rant, and
b) it is probably outside the realm of possibility.

Merry Xmas to one and all.

We need a win tomorrow! Please!

 

[Helen Chamberlains Quim]

Well informed thread starter. What if they were smashed out of their brains on drink and drugs? I know I was a Noon today!

HCq

 

[readingstockport]

Or it could be a car that had not tax, insurance or mot. Or it could have been one which had been flagged up as belonging to someone who had an outstanding warrant. Or it could have been a car which had been flagged up as having been reported as possibly being involved in a crime of some kind. Or someone could have phoned the police and reported it as being driven by someone who was over the drink drive limit.

or.
or.
or.

 

[vegster]

Surely all Highway Code Laws are suspended on Christmas Day ? How odd of a Police unit not to realise this?

 

[Acker79]

Surely all Highway Code Laws are suspended on Christmas Day ? How odd of a Police unit not to realise this?

It's Christmas, all laws are suspended!

 

[Ninja Elephant]

It's Christmas, all laws are suspended!

It's a wonder police were working today at all, considering.

 

[Doris_Maywheather]

Could of been under surveillance for criminal activities and been told to pull the suspect in for a random stop and search. There’s so many different possibilities.

 

[NMH]

The ob like an easy catch, mostly can't be arsed otherwise.
I've heard a lot about how bad policing has been in this country, but now I've seen it for myself - and it certainly can be abysmal.

They actually decide to KILL a suspect on the London underground. Surely a rare operation that required the ultimate correctness and exactitude - and yet they managed to make a mistake... make that a total cock-up of international embarrassment proportions.

They locked away a poor innocent guy for 25 years, while the actual perpetrator committed suicide 2 years after the crime (dna proving it several years later). This was from their practice of coercing an incidental suspect to admit guilt (obviously there must have been a lack of tangible evidence on their suspect!)

A dispatcher pretended the line had suddenly gone dead when I called 999 about a bloke who was actively smashing a phone-booth to smithereens, while I could actually hear that dispatcher's breathing from my phone!

They arrest someone for a crime on the word of the main suspect, who named someone-else just to take the attention from himself - then drop the whole thing months afterward when they realize they'd followed a red-herring, still leaving the main suspect around to go and offend again (you hear about perpetrators often being previous suspects, questioned several times - then going on to do the same thing again and again. Yes, the cops often know they did stuff, but aren't smart/bothered enough to nail the cases down).

 

[Billy the Fish]

He might've been a serial rapist

 

[wellquickwoody]

The ob like an easy catch, mostly can't be arsed otherwise.
I've heard a lot about how bad policing has been in this country, but now I've seen it for myself - and it certainly can be abysmal.

They actually decide to KILL a suspect on the London underground. Surely a rare operation that required the ultimate correctness and exactitude - and yet they managed to make a mistake... make that a total cock-up of international embarrassment proportions.

They locked away a poor innocent guy for 25 years, while the actual perpetrator committed suicide 2 years after the crime (dna proving it several years later). This was from their practice of coercing an incidental suspect to admit guilt (obviously there must have been a lack of tangible evidence on their suspect!)

A dispatcher pretended the line had suddenly gone dead when I called 999 about a bloke who was actively smashing a phone-booth to smithereens, while I could actually hear that dispatcher's breathing from my phone!

They arrest someone for a crime on the word of the main suspect, who named someone-else just to take the attention from himself - then drop the whole thing months afterward when they realize they'd followed a red-herring, still leaving the main suspect around to go and offend again (you hear about perpetrators often being previous suspects, questioned several times - then going on to do the same thing again and again. Yes, the cops often know they did stuff, but aren't smart/bothered enough to nail the cases down).

And all stewards are perfect huh? Know who I would rather trust.

 

[KneeOn]

Could have been one of the Albion defenders, who's defending has been CRIMINAL!

 

[jevs]

The ob like an easy catch, mostly can't be arsed otherwise.
I've heard a lot about how bad policing has been in this country, but now I've seen it for myself - and it certainly can be abysmal.

They actually decide to KILL a suspect on the London underground. Surely a rare operation that required the ultimate correctness and exactitude - and yet they managed to make a mistake... make that a total cock-up of international embarrassment proportions.

They locked away a poor innocent guy for 25 years, while the actual perpetrator committed suicide 2 years after the crime (dna proving it several years later). This was from their practice of coercing an incidental suspect to admit guilt (obviously there must have been a lack of tangible evidence on their suspect!)

A dispatcher pretended the line had suddenly gone dead when I called 999 about a bloke who was actively smashing a phone-booth to smithereens, while I could actually hear that dispatcher's breathing from my phone!

They arrest someone for a crime on the word of the main suspect, who named someone-else just to take the attention from himself - then drop the whole thing months afterward when they realize they'd followed a red-herring, still leaving the main suspect around to go and offend again (you hear about perpetrators often being previous suspects, questioned several times - then going on to do the same thing again and again. Yes, the cops often know they did stuff, but aren't smart/bothered enough to nail the cases down).

May i politely suggest you f*** off to Russia or China or Iran if you don't like the UK's way of policing.

 

[NMH]

May i politely suggest you f*** off to Russia or China or Iran if you don't like the UK's way of policing.

Oh I'm sure it's poor elsewhere too, but I'm not comparing.

It could just use some improvement here - and just like with politics we don't count our blessings it's not Zimbabwe and celebrate when we talk about ours.

 

[¤DãŃn¥ §êãGüLL¤]

He might've been a serial rapist

I was at home all day.

 

[NMH]

I was at home all day.

Howabout.... cerial rapist?

 

[Juan Albion]

Howabout.... cereal rapist?

 

[Whitterz]

The ob like an easy catch, mostly can't be arsed otherwise.
I've heard a lot about how bad policing has been in this country, but now I've seen it for myself - and it certainly can be abysmal.

They actually decide to KILL a suspect on the London underground. Surely a rare operation that required the ultimate correctness and exactitude - and yet they managed to make a mistake... make that a total cock-up of international embarrassment proportions.

They locked away a poor innocent guy for 25 years, while the actual perpetrator committed suicide 2 years after the crime (dna proving it several years later). This was from their practice of coercing an incidental suspect to admit guilt (obviously there must have been a lack of tangible evidence on their suspect!)

A dispatcher pretended the line had suddenly gone dead when I called 999 about a bloke who was actively smashing a phone-booth to smithereens, while I could actually hear that dispatcher's breathing from my phone!

They arrest someone for a crime on the word of the main suspect, who named someone-else just to take the attention from himself - then drop the whole thing months afterward when they realize they'd followed a red-herring, still leaving the main suspect around to go and offend again (you hear about perpetrators often being previous suspects, questioned several times - then going on to do the same thing again and again. Yes, the cops often know they did stuff, but aren't smart/bothered enough to nail the cases down).

1: Jean Charles D. was shot dead after running through a ticket barrier after failing to stop for Police on numerous occasions when told to do so. People can bring the language barrier into the frame, but the man spoke good English and would have clearly understood the term "POLICE". Now, if he was a terrorist, and did board a train and blown it up, people WOULD be saying "why didn't they shoot him?". Now you can argue that the repeated firing of rounds was unwarranted, but the carrying of a rucksack whilst running through a train station and onto a train whilst being chased by Police, when days earlier bombs were set off in London, leaves little wonder that the outcome was nothing short of expected. But of course the killing was unlawful because an innocent man was shot dead, it was always going to be.

2. 999 emergency call operators are not Police.

You would not believe how restricted the Police are on resources. And in light of the Government public spending cut, the Police are going to be even more stretched than what they are already. Its very easy to pick holes into a service that often comes under public scrutiny.

I have the upmost of respect for the men and women in Afghanistan/ Iraq, they are doing a very brave task whether everyone agrees with it or not. But lets not forget the MINORITY of our troops in Iraq/ Afghanistan who have abused thier positions by torturing/ murdering prisoners and innocent people.
Brushed under the carpet it is, and the public percieve everyone of them as heroes. 99.9% of them are of course. Why do some people deem it acceptable to call the Police in this country " effing bastards" when 99.9% of them are doing a job to protect the public. You get odd balls in all occupations. You would be hounded if you started a thread titled "the army are effing bastards".

I Take nothing away from the forces serving out in the middle east, but giving the police a shit one is surely a bit un called for?

 

[Acker79]

It's the culture we live in. Soldiers aren't stopping us do what we want.

The police are. We want to get home a little quicker they want us to keep to the speed limit. We want to have a little fun of an evening, they want to take our drugs away.

Same with parking attendants, we want to park in the street blocking other cars, emergency vehicles, etc because our shopping is so important, and they want to give us tickets.

Same with football, we want rough challenges, heated derby matches, and referees want to ensure the safety of everyone so stop the juicy tackles.

Etc. We live in a time when people feel like the rules shouldn't be applied if we don't want them to be (which we don't, unless we suffer for it - if it's our house that gets broken into by someone addict looking to fund his drug problem, our kid that gets run over, our drive home that is blocked by an illegal parker, our player whose leg gets broken), and so we attack the people that apply the laws (or the speed cameras because we can't bat our eyelids, or lie to it about needing to get home for an emergency and I'll keep it under the limit officer sir, until you're out of sight then I'm flooring it).

If the soldiers are ever called home and used to back up the police all their good work protecting the country will be forgotten as they stop the protesters smashing up buildings/goading the police etc.

 

[readingstockport]

1: Jean Charles D. was shot dead after running through a ticket barrier after failing to stop for Police on numerous occasions when told to do so. People can bring the language barrier into the frame, but the man spoke good English and would have clearly understood the term "POLICE". Now, if he was a terrorist, and did board a train and blown it up, people WOULD be saying "why didn't they shoot him?". Now you can argue that the repeated firing of rounds was unwarranted, but the carrying of a rucksack whilst running through a train station and onto a train whilst being chased by Police, when days earlier bombs were set off in London, leaves little wonder that the outcome was nothing short of expected. But of course the killing was unlawful because an innocent man was shot dead, it was always going to be.

Nice to know some still believe this bollocks despite it having been admited at the inquest and conclusively proved that

1. He didn't run.
2. He didn't jump or run through the barrier.
3. There were no orders to stop, at least none that were audible to anyone other than the police officer.

But hey, don't let simple things like facts get in the way will you.

 

[brighton bluenose]

1: Jean Charles D. was shot dead after running through a ticket barrier after failing to stop for Police on numerous occasions when told to do so. People can bring the language barrier into the frame, but the man spoke good English and would have clearly understood the term "POLICE". Now, if he was a terrorist, and did board a train and blown it up, people WOULD be saying "why didn't they shoot him?". Now you can argue that the repeated firing of rounds was unwarranted, but the carrying of a rucksack whilst running through a train station and onto a train whilst being chased by Police, when days earlier bombs were set off in London, leaves little wonder that the outcome was nothing short of expected. But of course the killing was unlawful because an innocent man was shot dead, it was always going to be.

What a load of shite - as far as I can see the first that the victim knew he 'was being chased through the station' was when the OB got on the the train itself!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/dec/13/menezes-police1