The movie that is going to land Tony Blair in jail

[South Stand Bonfire]

There is absolutely no shred of doubt that Iraq was a better place under Saddam Hussein. Since his demise, the place has been hell on earth. Scores of innocent people being killed in bombings and shootings is still a weekly occurrence and has been for the last 10 years. Iraq has turned from being one of the most educated and progressive Middle Eastern nations to being a perpetuating warzone with no real future in sight - but it's reasonable to assume that is the real reason Blair intervened, to profit from this scenario.

You have a good point but gassing the Kurds in Northern Iraq provided a different dimension. That was Saddam's downfall and it just needed any reason for the powers to act after that (i.e WMD or not) . Political opinions aside and whether you support him or not, it is (was) Saddam who should be tried not Blair.

 

[South Stand Bonfire]

Blair was PM from 1997 for 10 years and took us into Iraq and Afghanistan. What are the 5 conflicts that you are referring to??

You've only got to look at Blairs record in the office and his friends....he was six years as Premier...took our country into conflict 5 times.
His special friends beside Bush.....Silvio Berlusconi...what happened to him? Nicolas Sarkozy ...what happened to him? ....Wanted to knight Bashar al Assad....wonder what he's up to now....Gaddafi of Libya....Blair is a leech of the highest order.

 

[HovaGirl]

Galloway and Blair. The cream of British politics. Yuh. Right.

 

[Jim Van Winkle]

Brown selling the UK's gold reserve has to be one of the worse decisions of the Blair and Brown tenure.

 

[Medwayseagull]

Nibble, I was hoping that you would nibble at one of the three points that Symjym makes, but you've studiously avoided in doing so thus far. You're around, so try one or, better, all three. I disagree with you about Blair as PM -- and I can expand on that if you want -- and don't think we've had a decent PM since either Wilson or MacMillan.

You think Macmillan was a decent pm ?

 

[topbanana36]

Mass immigration. Human rights act. Ilegal wars. Brought the county to its knees. The list goes on. Truly shocking PM.

Tony Blair complete and utter ***t.

 

[seagullsovergrimsby]

Blair was PM from 1997 for 10 years and took us into Iraq and Afghanistan. What are the 5 conflicts that you are referring to??

I make it 6 , Kosovo , Serbia , Sierra Leone , Afghanistan and Iraq twice.

 

[Machiavelli]

You think Macmillan was a decent pm ?

Beyond Wilson, name me one that was better since. You've got a picture of Bevan on your profile, which suggests that you think Attlee was the best PM. If so, I agree, he was the best in British political history, and Bevan was a political and rhetorical genius. Attlee set the postwar social democratic consensus that dominated for 30 or so years, until it was replaced by the Thatcher's neoliberal logic that still predominates today. All Macmillan did was sustain -- or, better, conserve as in conservative -- that social democratic form. All Blair did was continue the acceleration of that neoliberal revolution that Thatcher so ruthlessly began.

 

[The Large One]

I make it 6 , Kosovo , Serbia , Sierra Leone , Afghanistan and Iraq twice.

Thatcher/Major took us into Iraq first time.

 

[seagullsovergrimsby]

Thatcher/Major took us into Iraq first time.

Blair was PM at the time , Thatcher was in the early stages of senile dementia back in 1998 and Major was getting used to his retirement slippers. If you're talking about the Gulf War in 1991 we didn't invade Iraq as there was no UN mandate and the Iraqi forces were beaten in Kuwait. British forces in a UN coalition took military action against Iraq in 1998 and 2003 to overthrow the Saddam regime.

 

[drew]

tell that to 500,000 dead Iraqi children. Pr1ck.

So you're saying the equivalent of 10% of children in Iraq have died because of Blair. Where do you get your stats from!!!!!

Blair was PM at the time , Thatcher was in the early stages of senile dementia back in 1998 and Major was getting used to his retirement slippers. If you're talking about the Gulf War in 1991 we didn't invade Iraq as there was no UN mandate and the Iraqi forces were beaten in Kuwait. British forces in a UN coalition took military action against Iraq in 1998 and 2003 to overthrow the Saddam regime.

Did we actually invade Iraq in 98 then?

 

[Rookie]

Unfortunately he will never be tried for war crimes. It all comes down to the role of the United States in the International Criminal Court, try Blair and you have to try Bush which will result in the US withdrawing their support for the Court. With US support the Court would be weak and pretty worthless. (there is a good article somewhere which I am failing to find at the moment which explains it all in a much better way than I could). (And yes I know they are not a member but they do add support to it)

 

[seagullsovergrimsby]

Did we actually invade Iraq in 98 then?

British and American special forces were on the ground to laser the installations to be taken out by strike aircraft.

 

[drew]

British and American special forces were on the ground to laser the installations to be taken out by strike aircraft.

Hardly an invasion!

 

[pastafarian]

tell that to 500,000 dead Iraqi children. Pr1ck.

You are full of shit.

You quote false statistics the same as Galloway,no doubt like him you will be unable to give a reputable source as to the claimed casualties in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Interesting to note in recent interviews he has avoided saying a million have died and now is saying many thousands.


The guy is probably the biggest prick and wanker ever to serve as an MP,and that is a hard achievement when you put Gerry Adams into the mix

 

[melias shoes]

He certainly made a killing alright. I can't believe no one has mentioned the Human Rights bill he introduced which his wife lapped up. Making an absolute fortune.

 

[Tony Towner's Fridge]

Much as I disagree with Galloway's politics, I admire him for his conviction of beliefs and ability to discuss and argue. I also firmly believe that Blair should have been impeached and should be prosecuted for his role in World de-stabilisation which will resonate for decades to come. Also his vile brand of luvvy dovey socialism showed/shows the real Labour party at their incompetent best.

TNBA

TTF

 

[drew]

Brown selling the UK's gold reserve has to be one of the worse decisions of the Blair and Brown tenure.

And do you have any idea what the effect of that was or are you just quoting something you heard others say?

 

[fat old seagull]

Much as I disagree with Galloway's politics, I admire him for his conviction of beliefs and ability to discuss and argue. I also firmly believe that Blair should have been impeached and should be prosecuted for his role in World de-stabilisation which will resonate for decades to come. Also his vile brand of luvvy dovey socialism showed/shows the real Labour party at their incompetent best.

TNBA

TTF

Not convinced you can blame the Labour Party for Tony Blair he's no more a socialist than Nick Clegg is a Lib Dem. They can label themselves however they wish, but they are both Ultra Conservative by deed.

 

[Chicken Runner61]

Brown selling the UK's gold reserve has to be one of the worse decisions of the Blair and Brown tenure.

This has to go down in history with Diana's death.

He sold half not all, he told everyone 6-12 months before he was going to do it, Gold was going no where then and it might be going back to no where now.

If you are going to print money and expand the use of fiat currency across the globe gold isn't much use to you.

He was probably told to do it by the the world bank to stop the price of gold rising in order to try and promote fiat currency worldwide.
If scotland get independence do they get a share of the gold in the BOE? If they do will you say he saved us 20% in our divorce settlement?

If he hadn't sold it would you still have it now and when would YOU sell it or have sold it?

Have you ever seen the gold we have or know where it is and what happened to the gold that Germany sent to Fort Knox during the cold war ? in fact is there really any gold in Fort Knox?