Super Steve Earle
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That's a different argument. I agree with the view.
[Politics] The Labour Government
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Whilst not a labour voter find the criticism of Starmer ridiculous. Starmer comes over for what he is a legal man and had to do nothing to get in. Lets face it last natural leader country were able to vote for was Blair. Sure he regrets a few things he has done but so much different criticising everything in opposition and now having to make decisions. P&O a great example. In opposition rightly in my opinion had no time for them for the way they treated staff. Different matter now he wants investment from them.
My only concern is civil service which has a big role to play and should always be neautral. I was unhappy that both covid and NHS enquiries were headed by out and out labour supporters. Civil Service has always been neautral and stood up to governments. Hope this can continue but with two senior positions been replaced by labour supporters I wonder. Hope with these two appointments plus Sue Gray and son we are not carrying on Jobs for mates.
With a 200 majority they would have to be near disastrous which is very unlikely to not get a 2nd term. All those critics out there i suggest you wait 4 years before making a judgement.
My only concern is civil service which has a big role to play and should always be neautral. I was unhappy that both covid and NHS enquiries were headed by out and out labour supporters. Civil Service has always been neautral and stood up to governments. Hope this can continue but with two senior positions been replaced by labour supporters I wonder. Hope with these two appointments plus Sue Gray and son we are not carrying on Jobs for mates.
With a 200 majority they would have to be near disastrous which is very unlikely to not get a 2nd term. All those critics out there i suggest you wait 4 years before making a judgement.
Yup, I wouldn’t fancy being an MP, let alone a Minister or PM, but there are those that do, and this lot haven’t helped themselves one bit. Own goals, no political nous etc. no wonder the media and social media have had a go, even the Guardian has had a pop at them.
Wait 4 years?
Good grief, no administration gets that long before judgements, criticism, praise and general comment get made. Anyway, some almost inevitable by elections will come along in the next few years and the results often give a glimpse of the feelings of the electorate towards the Government of the time.
armchairclubber
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Would that be Labour talk for 'we backed the wrong man' ?
Perhaps not, though even the suggestion would need more explanation than waging a small bet.
Labour are now rotten to the core, just as the Tories.
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Are they ? Or is there just a barrage of negative headlines in nearly all the newspapers as expected ? It's not like the endless mud slinging is going to achieve anything. They're here for five years.
My thought process has become so much easier since I stopped being bothered by politics, or at least taking intransigent sides and started looking at things from outside. The first thing you see is how odd the human need for identity is.
Some of the policy announcements I have agreed with, others not. A lot I don't know much about. But I wouldn't say they are 'rotten to the core'. The Tories were, but that's what happens after 14 years of power. It happens to all partys. They believe in some kind of invincibility.
armchairclubber
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Well, whatever you're opinion and whether you agree or not, I find it quite telling (quite astonishing even) that one of Labours members and staunchest supporters is even suggesting Starmer is more than likely find a strong and threatening leadership challenge internally so soon. And willing to put money on it.
Many have been led to believe the sun shines out of his (Starmers) backside and have stated as much on similar threads, after all the positive things we've heard both from him and about him for several years......on how he would bring great change with integrity.
I wasn't referring to any 'paper talk' at least I've not heard any or such talk of a leadership challenge there myself.
Perhaps you should query the poster over his original comments, he could explain more his perspective or position regarding Labour, rather than myself.
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….and a handful of posters in this echo chamber. This thread is just like all the other political threads albeit with a few different characters.
Is it PotG?
Thrifty non-licker
I doubt even the staunchest red would dare to call this 3 months a resounding success.
Yes but labour will be banking on many of the pensioners being dead by the time the next election round
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If you want to protect British workers rights you need to control the Labour market, and to control the labour market you need to manage your borders. Labour and the Tories have long sponsored the P&O economic model for how businesses work. It was an underlying issue with Brexit.
You reap what you sow.
I’m meeting a friend for brunch. You’ll have to discuss this with someone else Im afraid.
Weststander
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That’s exactly what I said 2016 to July 2024!
Is it PotG?
Thrifty non-licker
Pictures please.I’m meeting a friend for brunch. You’ll have to discuss this with someone else Im afraid.
Weststander
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LamieRobertson
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Weststander
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No photos I’m afraid, but here’s the menu.
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Wow. Like Harry’s of Palmeira Square on Teutonic steroids.
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