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Right Brain Ronnie

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Feb 20, 2023
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Probably most I guess
All the time that The Guardian sticks by him, then the readership on here will.

Probably, I just don't get how they are unable to see this?

What can we expect Starmers next move to be? Just when things were on the turn for the good, the swingers in life heads were turned by a sly authoritarian man.

What a disaster, his JCB is digging deep into the black hole at a rate never to be seen before.

What could possibly go wrong.🤦‍♂️
 




Bold Seagull

strong and stable with me, or...
Mar 18, 2010
30,452
Hove
Is there anyone in this forum still supporting Starmer?

Record low ratings at this stage, he always was a walking disaster, but to lead our country, which he doesn't even believe in, he makes me cringe when he stands by our union flag, its just another show of his deceit.

Right wing press working it's magic.
 




Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
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All the time that The Guardian sticks by him, then the readership on here will.
London stock exchange open and Nat West shares up again! Labour are certainly driving this economy in the right direction, using your metric, don’t you agree?
 




Herr Tubthumper

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Indeed, looks like I'll be able to send my Gran some cash for the December radiators now.
....and maybe stop posting links you have not read and/or thought through?
 




Herr Tubthumper

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Indeed, looks like I'll be able to send my Gran some cash for the December radiators now.
No need, she will be provided for by the state if she needs them.
 


Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,947
Surrey
Is there anyone in this forum still supporting Starmer?

Record low ratings at this stage, he always was a walking disaster, but to lead our country, which he doesn't even believe in, he makes me cringe when he stands by our union flag, its just another show of his deceit.


All the time that The Guardian sticks by him, then the readership on here will.

This is ridiculous. He's been in power less than 2 months after 14 years of unmitigated disaster where the national debt tripled, they divided the country after the hardest form of Brexit was implemented - TERRIBLY - and Tory donors were allowed to waste billions of tax payers money.

If you look at yesterday, people are understandably concerned at the winter fuel allowance bungle and now eyebrows are being raised over this potential smoking outdoors ban. But on the other hand, we've seen policies on taking back national rail firmed up, VAT on private education is being implemented and IS popular with the vast majority and they are clearly trying to build bridges with the EU, our closest trading partner.

This idea that after two months Kier Starmer is somehow a proven disaster is for the birds. Oh and for particularly ignorant right wingers, and their chums in the right wing press. He might prove to be a disaster, but we're miles from that.
 
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Is it PotG?

Thrifty non-licker
Feb 20, 2017
25,452
Sussex by the Sea
It will be interesting to see how many investors with private share holdings will be cashing in over the next few weeks, in addition to the number of private companies cashing in to private equity firms.

They will be less affected by any shock CGT jumps and the sums anticipated by Starmer & Co might be significantly less than predicted.

Add that to the probable increasing numbers of BtL properties going on the market.

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Bold Seagull

strong and stable with me, or...
Mar 18, 2010
30,452
Hove
It will be interesting to see how many investors with private share holdings will be cashing in over the next few weeks, in addition to the number of private companies cashing in to private equity firms.

They will be less affected by any shock CGT jumps and the sums anticipated by Starmer & Co might be significantly less than predicted.

Add that to the probable increasing numbers of BtL properties going on the market.

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That’s pretty misleading though because less than 1% of those paying CGT make up over 40% of the total CGT take. That graph can show a decrease in the number of people paying it but that doesn’t equate to less CGT being raised.
 


Super Steve Earle

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Feb 23, 2009
8,925
North of Brighton
It will be interesting to see how many investors with private share holdings will be cashing in over the next few weeks, in addition to the number of private companies cashing in to private equity firms.

They will be less affected by any shock CGT jumps and the sums anticipated by Starmer & Co might be significantly less than predicted.

Add that to the probable increasing numbers of BtL properties going on the market.

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No private share holdings but made enquiries yesterday about reluctantly putting a small private pension in to drawdown and taking the tax free lump sum now as a precautionary measure.
 


Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,947
Surrey
It will be interesting to see how many investors with private share holdings will be cashing in over the next few weeks, in addition to the number of private companies cashing in to private equity firms.

They will be less affected by any shock CGT jumps and the sums anticipated by Starmer & Co might be significantly less than predicted.

Add that to the probable increasing numbers of BtL properties going on the market.

View attachment 188104

1) That graph is meaningless without the actual rates of CGT.
2) I notice that the annual CGT exemption amount has fallen under the Tories (from £12k to their own proposed £3k in the next tax year), yet your graph shows it rising.

Not sure your bitter nonsense is worth reading.
 






Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
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It will be interesting to see how many investors with private share holdings will be cashing in over the next few weeks, in addition to the number of private companies cashing in to private equity firms.

They will be less affected by any shock CGT jumps and the sums anticipated by Starmer & Co might be significantly less than predicted.

Add that to the probable increasing numbers of BtL properties going on the market.

View attachment 188104
Yet again, you don’t really know what you’re posting about do you?
 


Is it PotG?

Thrifty non-licker
Feb 20, 2017
25,452
Sussex by the Sea
1) That graph is meaningless without the actual rates of CGT.
2) I notice that the annual CGT exemption amount has fallen under the Tories (from £12k to their own proposed £3k in the next tax year), yet your graph shows it rising.

Not sure your bitter nonsense is worth reading.
If you like.

I would wager you, a winter heating allowance, that less folk will pay as a result of this increase AND the figures quoted that it will raise will prove nonsense.

Bitter, me?

Not a chance. Just got a letter of great health news, and my hat is on the side of my head. Whistling a ditty and taking it all in.
 








Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,947
Surrey
If you like.

I would wager you, a winter heating allowance, that less folk will pay as a result of this increase AND the figures quoted that it will raise will prove nonsense.

Bitter, me?

Not a chance. Just got a letter of great health news, and my hat is on the side of my head. Whistling a ditty and taking it all in.
And I will wager you that I would trust this government to make more sensible tax changes for the good of the population than the last lot.

And I don't believe for one minute that SKS and Reeves (who achieved a 2:1 at Oxford reading PPE!) aren't aware of the elasticity of CGT, however much you continue to snipe and moan about it.
 


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