[Politics] The General Election Thread

[The Clamp]

You're wasting your time, it became clear to me some time ago that Corbyn/McDonnell could be pictured wearing I Luv the IRA t - shirts while throwing bricks through the window of a synagogue and some people would still defend them and find an excuse to vote for them .... #eviltories

Two weeks ago Johnson announced he was reneging on his promise to cease the prosecution of British soldiers for things they did in NI during the troubles.

Not one of your Corbyn hating mob mentioned it or responses to my post about it.

It’s clear to anyone that you don’t give a tinkers about who may or may not be a sympathiser but it’s a convenient stick with which to beat someone you dislike.

 

[Eeyore]

Fortunately, I (like most people) can differentiate between some hard - left Labour backbenchers associating and sympathising with SinnFein/IRA when they were blowing up British soldiers and men women and children across the UK and Her Maj meeting McGuiness in her official capacity, long after the terrorism had ceased.

Of course, the Tory government were talking to the IRA at that time...

I've not seen evidence that Corbyn ever met with the IRA or supported the violence. Happy to be corrected.

 

[Is it PotG?]

Would love to be 16 again.

Billy Bragg concerts, Red Wedge, member of the young socialists, change the world, equality for everyone. Then reality sets in over ideals: mortgage, kids, tax blah blah.

Under Len McCluskey, Labour is dangerous.

 

[theonlymikey]

Snake Watson resigned. Yasss.

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[hans kraay fan club]

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Because you’re a pervert?

 

[Guinness Boy]

Snake Watson resigned. Yasss.

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Yep. There's no way the Tories will make political capital out of that one.

#AllHailComradeCorbyn

 

[theonlymikey]

Yep. There's no way the Tories will make political capital out of that one.

#AllHailComradeCorbyn

Membership don't like him. Conference establish policy, Watson does independent interviews ripping into democratically established party policy. Many see him as a liability, especially the part he played in the false claims fiasco.

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[wellquickwoody]

Look up Maria Gatland, a Tory councillor in Croydon. She was an actual member of the IRA wanting all British soldiers shot.

Councillor, Croydon. Hardly the leader of Her Majesty’s Government Opposition.

 

[This is me]

Membership don't like him. Conference establish policy, Watson does independent interviews ripping into democratically established party policy. Many see him as a liability, especially the part he played in the false claims fiasco.

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Well done Mr Watson for leaving the anti democratic, anti Semitic nasty party

 

[nicko31]

Snake Watson resigned. Yasss.

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Would the last sane MP left in parliament please turn the light out...

 

[armchairclubber]

Doubt I've ever had more sympathy for a Tory MP than Harvey Proctor. What he was put through was sickening.

Goodbye Tom Watson.

The one good thing about this election campaign is that the truth seems to be outing on all sides which we all need to see.

Long may it continue

 

[jonny.rainbow]

@%1;

Well done Mr Watson for leaving the anti democratic, anti Semitic nasty party

The Labour Party policy decision making system is TOO democratic for centrists like Watson to stomach. He should’ve walked years ago. Careerist better suited to the parties of austerity.

 

[Baldseagull]

I will, far higher taxes for everyone one - excellent vote winner

I don't think their policy is far higher taxes for everyone. I resent paying a penny in tax when we have twunts like Chris Grayling spaffing millions up the wall, and when I know people a thousand times wealthier than me are paying next to nothing. I won't mind if my tax goes up as long as everyone else is paying their fair share, and it is not getting spent on bullshit like ferries we don't need from a company that didn't have any, to go to a port that did not have the capacity.

 

[Baldseagull]

I do understand but do you understand that borrowings need to be repaid?
UK debt is 86% of GDP it seems both parties are aiming for 100%

Buying Utilities would "pay dividends", that is why Utilities shareholders hold shares in Utilities, just look at is UK Treasury owning 100% of shares.

 

[Baldseagull]

There is no FSoS, parliament has been dissolved. The leader of the party is the leader, regardless of the parliamentary situation, but there are no cabinet ministers (the cabinet is the choice of the PM)

And what if Swinson refused to serve with a leaderless party: could she form one with Labour, even if they're not the largest party?

And yet Alun Cairns resigned his cabinet position today.

 

[Eeyore]

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Jolly good.

 

[beorhthelm]

Buying Utilities would "pay dividends", that is why Utilities shareholders hold shares in Utilities, just look at is UK Treasury owning 100% of shares.

to buy those shares will require est. £196bn debt raised from markets. that would pay a yield at similar rate to dividend, and require paying back at maturity.

the Keynsian model is to borrow when times are tight (specifcally in recession) and then pay back the debt as the economy recovers. the borrowed money should go into infrastructure and improvments that increase productivity. nationalisation achieves none of this.

 

[Pavilionaire]

The 70’s though is a bit like blaming the financial crash on Labour, the Tories were in power for half that decade, and it seems almost a footnote Heath led us into a double dip recession and out of control interest rates by 1974.

We are where we are though, he won 2 leadership elections, he won a huge vote share in 2017 when he hadn’t been leader long, and Labour will have a progressive forward looking manifesto. I do agree that for a lot of centrists, it’s whether they can stomach a turn to the left or not.

How is renationalising the railways progressive or forward-thinking? That would cost money this country doesn't have.

 

[drew]

@%1;

The Labour Party policy decision making system is TOO democratic for centrists like Watson to stomach. He should’ve walked years ago. Careerist better suited to the parties of austerity.

Membership don't like him. Conference establish policy, Watson does independent interviews ripping into democratically established party policy. Many see him as a liability, especially the part he played in the false claims fiasco.

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Democratic policy? Would that be the method they used to decide the vote for composite 13 at the conference?

 

[This is me]

https://www.theargus.co.uk/news/180...-poll-kemptown-shows-labour-lose-seat-tories/

..... looking like Labour will lose one of their two Brighton & Hove seats. Fantastic that the weasel will be out - but educated Hove? Come on ..... !