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[TV] The Detectives, fighting organised crime.



Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
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Oct 8, 2003
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Faversham
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Insel affe

HellBilly
Feb 23, 2009
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Brighton factually.....
I must admit the injury’s that guy sustained were horrific I to felt sorry for him until I was reminded of that old saying “If you run with Wolves you’ll learn how to howl”

Am I correct in thinking at the end of the programme the gang only were tried on the first kidnap, the second one he was involved in either is still going to trial or he served out his own retribution. He could clearly handle himself, it took four of them to get him in the car and he was still standing after that brutal assault and said to the the copper "is it bad mate".... yeah pretty bad.

Manchester has always had gang problems when I lived in Rusholme at the time Benji Stanley, 14, was blasted with a shotgun as he queued for food at a takeaway.
You would see them every day, and they would generally be ok with you when you walked past them, or saw them in the bookies, they would stare you down. I guess we were potential customers, not that I ever knowingly bought drugs off them.
 


redoubtable seagull

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Oct 27, 2004
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Am I correct in thinking at the end of the programme the gang only were tried on the first kidnap, the second one he was involved in either is still going to trial or he served out his own retribution. He could clearly handle himself, it took four of them to get him in the car and he was still standing after that brutal assault and said to the the copper "is it bad mate".... yeah pretty bad.

Manchester has always had gang problems when I lived in Rusholme at the time Benji Stanley, 14, was blasted with a shotgun as he queued for food at a takeaway.
You would see them every day, and they would generally be ok with you when you walked past them, or saw them in the bookies, they would stare you down. I guess we were potential customers, not that I ever knowingly bought drugs off them.

Yes you’re right. Convicted on the first kidnap. I wonder why the gang released the second guy after only a few hours. Was he the wrong man or unable to come up with any ransom?

Interesting to read a little more about this gang on the internet.

Cummings, who was only mentioned at the end of the episode was convicted for a previous crime. I wonder who the other masked gang members might have been...

http://https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/elliott-cummings-heald-green-court-17668551
 




Lenny Rider

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Sep 15, 2010
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On Tuesday night on BBC2

True crime doc. from Manchester. Some seriously scary people in it. Even the coppers are scared of them.

Well worth a watch, definitely recommended.


Thanks for the tip Lawro, watched it this morning, really thought provoking and right in the heart of Manchester, reiterated but much of the content surrounding Maine Road, yes that Maine Road.

Two things that really stuck out, whilst Police Brutality has no place in a civilised society, it almost appears to have gone to the other extreme, with the Police clearly intimidated on camera by a suspect.

And the other thing, clearly planted in the documentary by Greater Manchester Police, was the fact that the ‘gofer’/the foot soldier was the one who ended up with the 19 year sentence, sending a clear message out to the youth of Manchester, do not work for these kind of people as it will ruin your life.
 


Paulie Gualtieri

Bada Bing
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May 8, 2018
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Thanks for the tip Lawro, watched it this morning, really thought provoking and right in the heart of Manchester, reiterated but much of the content surrounding Maine Road, yes that Maine Road.

Two things that really stuck out, whilst Police Brutality has no place in a civilised society, it almost appears to have gone to the other extreme, with the Police clearly intimidated on camera by a suspect.

And the other thing, clearly planted in the documentary by Greater Manchester Police, was the fact that the ‘gofer’/the foot soldier was the one who ended up with the 19 year sentence, sending a clear message out to the youth of Manchester, do not work for these kind of people as it will ruin your life.

I think he got longer as only his prints were on the gun so the other two didn’t have a firearms charge.

Does anyone know if more episodes are planned, I really enjoyed the one to date.


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Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo

I believe in Joe Hendry
Oct 4, 2003
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I think he got longer as only his prints were on the gun so the other two didn’t have a firearms charge.

Does anyone know if more episodes are planned, I really enjoyed the one to date.


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Next episode is on Tuesday and looks like the whole series will be 5 episodes long.
 






Lenny Rider

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Sep 15, 2010
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I think he got longer as only his prints were on the gun so the other two didn’t have a firearms charge.

Does anyone know if more episodes are planned, I really enjoyed the one to date.


LBC my point was he clearly was the weaker party of the gang but clearly took the major jail time, which is the message GMP wanted to send out to all the potential Footsoldiers.
 








gripper stebson

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Jul 27, 2004
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Why? She's a solicitor who represents drug gangs, I'm not sure their lawyer selection process includes a smirk detector.

It was eye opening yet not surprising how the further up the gang food chain you go, the lesser the punishment can be as their hands are much cleaner, so to speak.

Nothing to say on this other than I love the phrase 'smirk detector'. Excellent work!
 












Wrong-Direction

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Mar 10, 2013
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Government really need to look at trying to make safe / legalise / tax drugs. There's obviously a high demand and hopfully it'll stop some of the senseless violence

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Wrong-Direction

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Mar 10, 2013
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Its things like this show which makes me think if I were a copper I'd be kneeling on peoples necks every 5 minutes!

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