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I think his advisers wished they had clubs just now - Boris inviting people to have barbecues! Didn’t think that one through did he?

Why not? As I understand it I can now go to my childrens house for a barbecue with my children and grandchildren

As I have six grandchildren spread through three lots of parents that means three free meals for me.

If that isn't good news I don't know what is!
 




dejavuatbtn

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Why not? As I understand it I can now go to my childrens house for a barbecue with my children and grandchildren

As I have six grandchildren spread through three lots of parents that means three free meals for me.

If that isn't good news I don't know what is!

If you think you can have a socially distanced totally outdoor barbecue with your family and not be within 2 metres of them, and not touch plates or food or utensils, or chairs, and not use the house facilities without decontaminating everything each and every thing each time, then HAVE A NICE ONE!
 


Me and my Monkey

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If you think you can have a socially distanced totally outdoor barbecue with your family and not be within 2 metres of them, and not touch plates or food or utensils, or chairs, and not use the house facilities without decontaminating everything each and every thing each time, then HAVE A NICE ONE!

Well, I think it's good news. Remember the thread rules.
 


Weststander

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Aug 25, 2011
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If you think you can have a socially distanced totally outdoor barbecue with your family and not be within 2 metres of them, and not touch plates or food or utensils, or chairs, and not use the house facilities without decontaminating everything each and every thing each time, then HAVE A NICE ONE!

Why be a miserablist here, when the Mods made plain the thread rules?
 


The Wizard

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Jul 2, 2009
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If you think you can have a socially distanced totally outdoor barbecue with your family and not be within 2 metres of them, and not touch plates or food or utensils, or chairs, and not use the house facilities without decontaminating everything each and every thing each time, then HAVE A NICE ONE!

It’s been said that the virus really doesn’t survive long outdoors on objects, it’s air transmission that is the danger with COVID, most studies found infected people were pretty much always infected by particles in enclosed spaces and that transmission by airborne particles outdoors was so highly unlikely that the risk is near nil. This is where hygiene becomes so important, people MUST take their hygiene very seriously, hand sanitiser and hand washing are crucial, it’s the best way of stopping the spread of germs, seen as 81% of people have no symptoms it’s important everyone does this.

I think hygiene is the most important factor in the spread of the virus full stop myself, South Korean people are taught from a very young age how important hygiene is, and the virus has barely got a foothold over there despite them not locking down at all.
 




n1 gull

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Jul 25, 2003
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If you think you can have a socially distanced totally outdoor barbecue with your family and not be within 2 metres of them, and not touch plates or food or utensils, or chairs, and not use the house facilities without decontaminating everything each and every thing each time, then HAVE A NICE ONE!

I think you are on the wrong thread. I can't wait to have bbq!
 








Guinness Boy

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If you think you can have a socially distanced totally outdoor barbecue with your family and not be within 2 metres of them, and not touch plates or food or utensils, or chairs, and not use the house facilities without decontaminating everything each and every thing each time, then HAVE A NICE ONE!

Wrong thread. Feel free to display your outrage in the dedicated sub forum
 










LamieRobertson

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Feb 3, 2008
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Spring watch is back......not in its normal format but not that good bad either...nice to see a live tv show that isn’t news based ....my favourite time of year ...Spring to me represents Beauty, colour, new life, a fresh start something that right now is welcome to us all
As an added bonus episode one (on IPlayer) has beaver and Michaela Strachans best bits :moo:
 


The Wizard

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Jul 2, 2009
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Interesting, there’s definitely more to immunity than simple antibodies, read this a few times now from different people and organisations, there seems to be several forms of immunity much more complex than simple antibodies in the blood.

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Mellotron

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Jul 2, 2008
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Interesting, there’s definitely more to immunity than simple antibodies, read this a few times now from different people and organisations, there seems to be several forms of immunity much more complex than simple antibodies in the blood.

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Yup. This is why people need to stop quoting the "only 7% infected" figures like it's fact. It isn't.

The science is now becoming pretty deafening on this - many people will be immune via other means.
 


The Wizard

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Jul 2, 2009
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Yup. This is why people need to stop quoting the "only 7% infected" figures like it's fact. It isn't.

The science is now becoming pretty deafening on this - many people will be immune via other means.

Yeah definitely, the fact that only 7% of people in Stockholm apparently have antibodies shows you there is something way more going on that we don’t quite understand yet, it will be interesting to see the results of the
Interleukin 7 drug trial, a drug that is meant to boost these T cells.

For anyone interested the article about T-cells from around a week ago that explains in a little more depth
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/health-52754280
 


dazzer6666

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Yeah definitely, the fact that only 7% of people in Stockholm apparently have antibodies shows you there is something way more going on that we don’t quite understand yet, it will be interesting to see the results of the
Interleukin 7 drug trial, a drug that is meant to boost these T cells.

For anyone interested the article about T-cells from around a week ago that explains in a little more depth
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/health-52754280

It's fascinating stuff - there is so much research resource being thrown at this globally the scene is changing literally every day..................I'm personally really quite optimistic about how we could come out of this much more quickly and effectively than has been feared - vaccine being developed, better and faster treatment being understood and rolled out, clear articulation of vulnerability factors to allow those more at risk to take appropriate action, clear knowledge of relative risk to various groups, track and trace allowing pinpointing of local outbreaks and subsequent action where necessary to limit further spread, improving knowledge of how the virus is transmitted (impacting dos and don'ts), very little evidence of second waves anywhere so far - and an overarching background of the virus appearing to be dying out of it's own accord somewhat.
 


Blue Valkyrie

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Sep 1, 2012
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There is some evidence that smokers are less likely to be hospitalised by CV-19.

It is thought that nicotine suppresses the cytokine storm reaction which is the real problem with this virus.


Obviously no one suggests taking up smoking, but nicotine patches could potentially help if you come down with CV-19.

We await further studies...
 




Billy the Fish

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Oct 18, 2005
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An important thing to take from [MENTION=27279]dazzer6666[/MENTION]'s post - no single thing on its own will defeat covid in the short term. However, all the things dazzer mentions put together will make a huge difference.

I wonder if something good can come out of this and make people have better hygiene practices in the cold and flu season. I feel like that's something the government should be ramming down our throats all day every day - wash your hands you dirty pigs!

https://youtu.be/zERh8piutWg
 


wehatepalace

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Apr 27, 2004
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There is some evidence that smokers are less likely to be hospitalised by CV-19.

It is thought that nicotine suppresses the cytokine storm reaction which is the real problem with this virus.


Obviously no one suggests taking up smoking, but nicotine patches could potentially help if you come down with CV-19.

We await further studies...

Yeah I’ve also read this, I’ve upped my game substantially recently from 20 B&H gold up to 40, all medicinal obviously
 


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